GT Comparisons: '89 to '90 to '91
#61
Erkka -
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
#62
Originally posted by fredis GT
My GT have brown marked springs and BOGE.
My GT have brown marked springs and BOGE.
Somebody check their S4 of the same vintage and see what color code your springs are.
On the downside though.........have you seen the price of the replacements for the sport shocks? Something like $200 - $250 each!!!
I do like the feel of the GT with sport shocks though......very nice and solid.
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Originally posted by MikeN
My GT has brown marked springs also. So I tend to believe that there are two types of '90-'91 GTs out there......those with 474 "sport shocks" and those without........same springs are used though.
Somebody check their S4 of the same vintage and see what color code your springs are.
On the downside though.........have you seen the price of the replacements for the sport shocks? Something like $200 - $250 each!!!
I do like the feel of the GT with sport shocks though......very nice and solid.
My GT has brown marked springs also. So I tend to believe that there are two types of '90-'91 GTs out there......those with 474 "sport shocks" and those without........same springs are used though.
Somebody check their S4 of the same vintage and see what color code your springs are.
On the downside though.........have you seen the price of the replacements for the sport shocks? Something like $200 - $250 each!!!
I do like the feel of the GT with sport shocks though......very nice and solid.
#64
Originally posted by EvilEvo
I really like my GT and its the best 928 I have ever had, but it would be fun to test a GTS with the manual gearbox one day.
I really like my GT and its the best 928 I have ever had, but it would be fun to test a GTS with the manual gearbox one day.
The GTS is a softer car compered with the GT and often did not come with sport shocks........so you have more of an S4 suspension then a GT suspension, but factor in the lower profile/wider tires and handling is probably close. The GT seems to be more of an "on edge" car while the GTS seems a little calmer. The GTS is a faster car, but not by a large margin. Brings up the debate whether the premium for a good GTS is worth it over a good GT, same as the 5 speed S4 vs. GT debate. Each is an upgrade, but not by a huge amount.......IMO.......
#65
Originally posted by fredis GT
Whats included in option 474 "sport shocks"? Bilsteins with brown marked springs?
Whats included in option 474 "sport shocks"? Bilsteins with brown marked springs?
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Originally posted by Bill Coleman
Erkka -
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
Erkka -
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
Erkka
1992 928 GTS 5-speed WPOZZZ
Oak Green Metallic 22L
Classic Gray MX
#68
Erkka,
When I try WPO I get the error 'The letters "I", "O" and "Q" never appear in a VIN'. And my VIN starts with WP0JB0...
You don't need an active CarFax account to at least find out how many records they have for a particular VIN, just for the details of those records. I can't get CarFax to accept any VIN starting with WP0AA2.
When I try WPO I get the error 'The letters "I", "O" and "Q" never appear in a VIN'. And my VIN starts with WP0JB0...
You don't need an active CarFax account to at least find out how many records they have for a particular VIN, just for the details of those records. I can't get CarFax to accept any VIN starting with WP0AA2.
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Interesting. It's true that "I", "O" and "Q" shouldn't appear in VIN so yes, it's WP0. But, check this out:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...hreadid=108019
Check digit is same on both ways as O's math value is 0. Maybe rest of VIN is correct, or maybe not. CarFax can't find WP0AB092xJS865061 but it finds:
VIN: WP0AA0929JS865061
Year/Make/Model: 1988 PORSCHE 924S
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.5L L4 FI SOHC 8V
Manufactured In: GERMANY
Search Results: 0 records found in our database
The CARFAX database currently contains no records for this vehicle. Please check back again soon, as our database is continually updated.
VIN: WP0AA0920JS865062
Year/Make/Model: 1988 PORSCHE 924S
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.5L L4 FI SOHC 8V
Manufactured In: GERMANY
Search Results: 0 records found in our database
The CARFAX database currently contains no records for this vehicle. Please check back again soon, as our database is continually updated.
It also finds WP0AA0922JS865063, there goes that theory. If there's no records how they can tell they are 924S's? Especially when 7, 8 and 12 is 928. Carfax isn't right and Austen certainly isn't right, mess gets worse all the time.
Erkka
1992 928 GTS 5-speed WP0ZZZ it is
Oak Green Metallic 22L
Classic Gray MX
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...hreadid=108019
Check digit is same on both ways as O's math value is 0. Maybe rest of VIN is correct, or maybe not. CarFax can't find WP0AB092xJS865061 but it finds:
VIN: WP0AA0929JS865061
Year/Make/Model: 1988 PORSCHE 924S
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.5L L4 FI SOHC 8V
Manufactured In: GERMANY
Search Results: 0 records found in our database
The CARFAX database currently contains no records for this vehicle. Please check back again soon, as our database is continually updated.
VIN: WP0AA0920JS865062
Year/Make/Model: 1988 PORSCHE 924S
Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.5L L4 FI SOHC 8V
Manufactured In: GERMANY
Search Results: 0 records found in our database
The CARFAX database currently contains no records for this vehicle. Please check back again soon, as our database is continually updated.
It also finds WP0AA0922JS865063, there goes that theory. If there's no records how they can tell they are 924S's? Especially when 7, 8 and 12 is 928. Carfax isn't right and Austen certainly isn't right, mess gets worse all the time.
Erkka
1992 928 GTS 5-speed WP0ZZZ it is
Oak Green Metallic 22L
Classic Gray MX
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Erkka -
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
I have news about these two cars.
WP0JB0922JS865061
Red car
Inside code KS (I suspect flannel cloth black with white stripes)
Equipment:
I158: Reno Radio
I167: Bridgestone tires
I393: CS rims
I441: Radio speakers and antenna amplifier
M474: sport shock absorbers
M481: 5 speed manual transmission
I607: More numerous cables for dashboard
I637: CS
WP0JB0924JS865062
Red car
Inside code XL (grey grau Porsche cloth)
Equipment:
I167: Bridgestone tires
I393: CS rims
M474: sport shock absorbers
M481: 5 speed manual transmission
I637: CS
I also have the engine and gearbox numbers and they are way of of the usual CS range. Both have been produced before the production cars and I suspect they were made for the factory as test cars but never send to the USA.
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Erkka -
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
Should those VINs start with WP0JB insead of WPOAB???
If so, the correct VINs would be WP0JB0922JS865061 and WP0JB0924JS865062. I've tried them on CarFax and a couple other services, and none of them have any info on those VINs.
I have news about these two cars.
WP0JB0922JS865061
Red car
Inside code KS (I suspect flannel black with red stripes)
Equipment:
I158: Reno Radio
I167: Bridgestone tires
I393: CS rims
I441: Radio speakers and antenna amplifier
M474: sport shock absorbers
M481: 5 speed manual transmission
I607: More numerous cables for dashboard
I637: CS
WP0JB0924JS865062
Red car
Inside code XL (grey grau Porsche cloth)
Equipment:
I167: Bridgestone tires
I393: CS rims
M474: sport shock absorbers
M481: 5 speed manual transmission
I637: CS
I also have the engine and gearbox numbers and they are way off from the usual CS range. Both have been produced before the production cars and I suspect they were made for the factory as test cars but never send to the USA.
Last edited by 928cs; 01-12-2015 at 05:37 PM.
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Samuel, it will likely not surprise you that these are/were both 00641 cars as well.
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Ok…. I’ll play having found my “Unicorn” in Germany. 90GT, no air bags, no sun roof, no rear AC, no Side Moldings and Sport seats.
“The only 1990 928 GT delivered in Germany with this equipment:
- M383: Sport seat left (free)
- M387: Sport seat right (free)
- M474: Sport shock absorbers (DM?)
- M567: Top of the windshield green tinted (DM?)
And without M418 (side protections), nor M650 (sunroof).”
She has PSD but is the lightest 90GT made I’m told
“The only 1990 928 GT delivered in Germany with this equipment:
- M383: Sport seat left (free)
- M387: Sport seat right (free)
- M474: Sport shock absorbers (DM?)
- M567: Top of the windshield green tinted (DM?)
And without M418 (side protections), nor M650 (sunroof).”
She has PSD but is the lightest 90GT made I’m told
Last edited by Darien; 11-25-2023 at 06:11 PM.