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Old 09-13-2021, 01:59 PM
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Anyone have a trick to getting a stuck fog light screws out without removing the bumper cover? The other three screws loosened right up.

I've been spraying what I can with Aerokroil for the last couple of days but there's no access for the penetrant to get to the threads to do it's job. Also been vigorously tapping it with a steel head screwdriver and hammer to try to shock it loose but don't want to hit it too hard. I was thinking maybe a little heat but gonna be hard to focus it only on the screw without damaging something else.




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Every drawer needs a GOOD quality set of JIS screwdrivers..way better than a "phillips" drive for the dangerous ones like this.

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Fortunately it's not stripped yet and I still have plenty of bite in the screw head. Yet:/
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Have you tried an impact screw driver? That's what I use to get the small Philips out of the brake rotor without striping it out. Works like a charm.
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Impact driver works very well on the similar S4 drying light screws.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Every drawer needs a GOOD quality set of JIS screwdrivers..way better than a "phillips" drive for the dangerous ones like this.
OK, you have my attention. Define 'GOOD quality set of' JIS screw drivers. Set size? Manufacturer?

Thanks, and sorry to hijack to the OP.
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Originally Posted by skpyle
OK, you have my attention. Define 'GOOD quality set of' JIS screw drivers. Set size? Manufacturer?

Thanks, and sorry to hijack to the OP.
yes; what are they and what do they look like?

Also, isn't it a bit dangerous to use an impact wrench in that area? Banging on the wrench (i.e., making the impact) would damage the housing no? What about a Mikata (or similar) electric/battery impact wrench with an appropriate bit? That would shake it out without damaging the housing surround. Bathe it in your liquid wrench of choice first, for a few hours.
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@linderpat : Here's a selection of the screwdrivers (no affiliation, etc): https://www.mcmaster.com/screwdriver...tyle~jis-jcis/

As to the impact driver, I was imagining the standard, manual type, the kind that you "activate" with a rubber mallet.

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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Every drawer needs a GOOD quality set of JIS screwdrivers..way better than a "phillips" drive for the dangerous ones like this.
Amen
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Originally Posted by Zirconocene
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As to the impact driver, I was imagining the standard, manual type, the kind that you "activate" with a rubber mallet.

Cheers
sorry, that's what I meant (I wasn't too clear) - banging on it with a mallet would seem to me to risk breaking or deforming the housing that the screw screws into. The small style impact gun would be a safer option, as it will rattle the screw loose.
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I pick best bit in toolbox, add vice grips to shaft, lean in hard, give it a quick twist. Some sort of impact tool would be better.

Have drilled a few out. Left handed bits always better than standard, but doable either way

The little allen headed screws are similar. Clean them out obsessively, tap best hex wrench in.

Have been cleaning up threads with tiny tap. Look for any cross threaded screws and replace. Generous qty of antiseize on reassembly.

Am curious, does your 85 euro still have stock euro wiring for auxiliary lower high beams? Lot of them got federalized to a different setup. Brutal amount of light if still stock.

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A screwdriver chat is not off topic here...here is a primer on the issue:
https://www.dateelectronicsupplies.co.uk/news/the-jis-standard/4
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/difference-between-phillips-and-jis-head-screws/


A JIS driver works everywhere, every time.
A phillips is designed to push itself OUT of the screw when its tight...so when its over tight to come out...it's working against you, by design.

And a hammer driver here is....ew...a hammer?

Try the right driver first.

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Thanks for the link Speedtoys.
Learn something new today!
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Originally Posted by Landseer
I pick best bit in toolbox, add vice grips to shaft, lean in hard, give it a quick twist. Some sort of impact tool would be better.

Have drilled a few out. Left handed bits always better than standard, but doable either way

The little allen headed screws are similar. Clean them out obsessively, tap best hex wrench in.

Have been cleaning up threads with tiny tap. Look for any cross threaded screws and replace. Generous qty of antiseize on reassembly.

Am curious, does your 85 euro still have stock euro wiring for auxiliary lower high beams? Lot of them got federalized to a different setup. Brutal amount of light if still stock.
The lights have been federalized with US aux lights, etc🤮 but there are some wires shoved up under the bumper so I'm hopeful, just haven't had the time fool with it but it's on my list.
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For anyone interested between a pair of vice grips and one of those ez out sort of screw removers I managed to to spin the threaded insert:/ Drilled out the screw head, pulled the fixture housing, and then applied a little heat and removed the threaded insert. I have it soaking now, when I get the remainder of the screw out I'll clean and reinstall and install a new screw to make as good as new.
Thanks for all the input.
BTW, no way I would use an impact screw driver here. 36 year old plastic housing and pot metal, nope!


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