Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Battery Cable dead short to ground. Advice wanted.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-20-2021, 07:25 PM
  #16  
996Fever
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
996Fever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Alan
Well - fuses are cheap - so try different configurations - with just ABS, with just Alternator, with just jump post - figure out what is causing this.
I'd do that before taking the alternator in for testing.

Alan
Yeah, that's my plan. Since the starter is hooked back up, I'll unhook everything past the alternator and see what happens. My guess is it's the alternator, but we'll see. And yes, I have both terminals removed and plastic safety caps on the battery while I futz with it.
Randy
Old 09-20-2021, 09:53 PM
  #17  
GregBBRD
Former Sponsor
 
GregBBRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 15,230
Received 2,476 Likes on 1,468 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 996Fever
Yeah, that's my plan. Since the starter is hooked back up, I'll unhook everything past the alternator and see what happens. My guess is it's the alternator, but we'll see. And yes, I have both terminals removed and plastic safety caps on the battery while I futz with it.
Randy
Did you check to see if the battery had switched polarity?
(Which makes sense from your first post.....#2 on your list)

If it was, the alternator will be toast.

Last edited by GregBBRD; 09-20-2021 at 09:55 PM.
Old 09-21-2021, 01:00 AM
  #18  
996Fever
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
996Fever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Did you check to see if the battery had switched polarity?
(Which makes sense from your first post.....#2 on your list)

If it was, the alternator will be toast.
No, I did not. I just purchased a new battery since the other one was quite swelled, even while holding a charge. Didn't seem to be smart even using it again for what a battery costs. But I have been charging batteries since 1972 and am sure I hooked up the charger correctly. Not hard to tell the diff between + and -, especially when you have red and green felts on it. I'm gonna do the alternator test tomorrow if I get home with time.

Last edited by 996Fever; 09-21-2021 at 01:05 AM.
Old 09-21-2021, 03:10 AM
  #19  
GregBBRD
Former Sponsor
 
GregBBRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 15,230
Received 2,476 Likes on 1,468 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 996Fever
No, I did not. I just purchased a new battery since the other one was quite swelled, even while holding a charge. Didn't seem to be smart even using it again for what a battery costs. But I have been charging batteries since 1972 and am sure I hooked up the charger correctly. Not hard to tell the diff between + and -, especially when you have red and green felts on it. I'm gonna do the alternator test tomorrow if I get home with time.
It will be interesting to see what is causing your short. Could be a badly deteriorated 14 pin harness, shorting to ground. Or some other problem.

One of the Boxsters that was passed down to me to trace the issue, also had a charger hooked up to it, correctly....100% certain.

A bad diode is not an uncommon thing, in an old alternator. Multiple "smoked" diodes allowing a huge short to ground...only comes from one thing....






Old 09-21-2021, 09:18 AM
  #20  
Shark2626
Burning Brakes
 
Shark2626's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 806
Received 60 Likes on 52 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 996Fever
No, I did not. I just purchased a new battery since the other one was quite swelled, even while holding a charge.
10V will not start your car, and any battery that falls from 12V to 10V overnight is a bad battery. It should measure about 12.5V resting and hold that charge for certainly weeks if not months without any issue. You were definitely due for a new battery.
Old 10-24-2021, 11:15 AM
  #21  
996Fever
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
996Fever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Sorry, for the delay. I was in Hawaii for a month and had no time to deal with the car. I found the short. The clip holding the ABS wire up came loose and the cable was riding on the PS pump pulley.




The following 2 users liked this post by 996Fever:
Bales (10-24-2021), Mrmerlin (10-24-2021)
Old 10-24-2021, 06:54 PM
  #22  
Mrmerlin
Team Owner
 
Mrmerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philly PA
Posts: 28,332
Received 2,494 Likes on 1,403 Posts
Default

Boom Chicka !
saved from a smokey meltdown.
I would cut out the wire where its damaged ,
resolder it with a metal collar, and heat shrink it with marine grade heat shrink.

Then add Heatshrink to the rest of the wire.

Then run the ABS wire across the front timing cover and clip it in, there is a small hole for this you need the proper clip

then to the fender well and under the ABS unit and along the ABS lines till it comes out the front side,
bend it till it reaches the connection point.
Im glad you didnt have a meltdown and asked some questions first.

While your at it get the heat shrink and also add another layer to the Hot post red wire,
slide the heat shrink into the loom covering.

Last edited by Mrmerlin; 10-24-2021 at 06:55 PM.
Old 10-25-2021, 12:01 AM
  #23  
996Fever
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
996Fever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Yep. Thanks for the support. I'm a retired Union electrician, so it's already got a clean, trimmed end on what was left. I will run a new, safe cable from what's left up to the ABS post. Hopefully none of the electronics took too bad of a hit during the dead short. Longest part of the job will be putting the Alternator back in. Took me almost a 1/2 hour to get it out.

Last edited by 996Fever; 10-25-2021 at 12:05 AM.



Quick Reply: Battery Cable dead short to ground. Advice wanted.



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:24 PM.