Annoying "missfire"
#91
Racer
Thread Starter
I shall ignore your Specsavers related wit
I'll try posting those pics again at higher res. The heads are exactly as they came off about 10 mins before I took the picture. I haven't touched them.
I'll try posting those pics again at higher res. The heads are exactly as they came off about 10 mins before I took the picture. I haven't touched them.
#92
Racer
Thread Starter
And vile looking gasket
#93
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Now that we have some pics we can actually resolve you have my blessing to give Specsavers a miss today- I was going to post a pic of their location and telephone number but I thought that might be pushing the humour a tad!
Your head gasket is in surprisingly good condition in and around the bounds of the photo. If you get chance and feel so inclined, it would be good to get some photos of each head and both sides of the gasket for both banks. Take the pics in good light preferably with a white background- considering the latest photo posts they will probably be very good resolution.
At the moment I cannot relate cylinder number to the pics posted but i presume your focus is on cylinder No4?
Whatever cylinder it is the staining on the machined head surface suggests that degraded coolant had penetrated the fibrous part of the gasket sealing the concentric circle outboard of the fire-ring circle. At the moment I cannot see any obvious signs of fire ring failed on the head gasket surfaces but the dis-colouration on the combustion chamber needs to be explained. I have no clue what tha tis but hopefully our friends Stateside may have some opinions when they wake up.
Your head gasket is in surprisingly good condition in and around the bounds of the photo. If you get chance and feel so inclined, it would be good to get some photos of each head and both sides of the gasket for both banks. Take the pics in good light preferably with a white background- considering the latest photo posts they will probably be very good resolution.
At the moment I cannot relate cylinder number to the pics posted but i presume your focus is on cylinder No4?
Whatever cylinder it is the staining on the machined head surface suggests that degraded coolant had penetrated the fibrous part of the gasket sealing the concentric circle outboard of the fire-ring circle. At the moment I cannot see any obvious signs of fire ring failed on the head gasket surfaces but the dis-colouration on the combustion chamber needs to be explained. I have no clue what tha tis but hopefully our friends Stateside may have some opinions when they wake up.
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thepurpleblob (09-05-2021)
#94
Racer
Thread Starter
Well this might settle the "are they going to the machine shop or not?" argument. There's definitely some damage visible after a 10 minute clean. It's not the easiest thing to photograph but that's an area a few mm across and maybe 0.5mm deep into the head surface...
Bear in mind that Cylinder 4 had some SeaFoam in it for a couple of days so the staining could just be that. Cylinder 7 was also low (150psi vs. 180ish on all others except 110 on 4)
Bear in mind that Cylinder 4 had some SeaFoam in it for a couple of days so the staining could just be that. Cylinder 7 was also low (150psi vs. 180ish on all others except 110 on 4)
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#95
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Well this might settle the "are they going to the machine shop or not?" argument. There's definitely some damage visible after a 10 minute clean. It's not the easiest thing to photograph but that's an area a few mm across and maybe 0.5mm deep into the head surface...
Bear in mind that Cylinder 4 had some SeaFoam in it for a couple of days so the staining could just be that. Cylinder 7 was also low (150psi vs. 180ish on all others except 110 on 4)
Bear in mind that Cylinder 4 had some SeaFoam in it for a couple of days so the staining could just be that. Cylinder 7 was also low (150psi vs. 180ish on all others except 110 on 4)
Pitting corrosion in a flanged joint = crevice corrosion! I am sure there will be more!
#96
Racer
Thread Starter
Ok - I'm just going to strip the heads and take them round to the machine shop. See what they think. It's not going back in like that, is it....
#97
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H,
Any update on the condition of the corroded heads yet?
Whereas the heads can be skimmed the intent of this operation is to recover from warpage not golf course type divots! Minor corrosion can be taken out by skimming but the type of thing we are seeing ominously consistently these days tends to be deeper in places than the 0.3mm or whatever it is that is available.
Presumably you have yet to define a problem that might explain your perceived misfire this thread is centred on?
Did you get any sugggestions regarding that staining on the piston?
Any update on the condition of the corroded heads yet?
Whereas the heads can be skimmed the intent of this operation is to recover from warpage not golf course type divots! Minor corrosion can be taken out by skimming but the type of thing we are seeing ominously consistently these days tends to be deeper in places than the 0.3mm or whatever it is that is available.
Presumably you have yet to define a problem that might explain your perceived misfire this thread is centred on?
Did you get any sugggestions regarding that staining on the piston?
#98
Racer
Thread Starter
Progress is slow due to work stuff. I hope to get them down the machine shop early next week to see what they can do.
I'm where I am due to uneven compression readings. I hope to resolve that - and some oil leaks. If that gets the uneven running sorted then great. I'm trying to fix the problems I can see.
Some of the engine wiring is very rough so I'm going to replace that while I'm in there.
I'm where I am due to uneven compression readings. I hope to resolve that - and some oil leaks. If that gets the uneven running sorted then great. I'm trying to fix the problems I can see.
Some of the engine wiring is very rough so I'm going to replace that while I'm in there.
#99
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Progress is slow due to work stuff. I hope to get them down the machine shop early next week to see what they can do.
I'm where I am due to uneven compression readings. I hope to resolve that - and some oil leaks. If that gets the uneven running sorted then great. I'm trying to fix the problems I can see.
Some of the engine wiring is very rough so I'm going to replace that while I'm in there.
I'm where I am due to uneven compression readings. I hope to resolve that - and some oil leaks. If that gets the uneven running sorted then great. I'm trying to fix the problems I can see.
Some of the engine wiring is very rough so I'm going to replace that while I'm in there.
#100
Racer
Thread Starter
The engine loom - I'm just going to make a new one (I can do that). The injection loom is not nearly as bad. I'm going to think about that.
#101
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I got the connectors for the latter from a UK outfit on ebay. The pigtails going into the connectors were in a poor state. The job has its challenges!
#102
Racer
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Yeh - bizarrely named "Junior Timer" connectors. They're easy to get in the UK.
The only thing that's hard to get (or at least at a sensible price) is the 14-pin connector.
The only thing that's hard to get (or at least at a sensible price) is the 14-pin connector.
#103
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I understand the 14 pin connector, should you need one, is relatively easy to get hold of