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Old 04-28-2021, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chart928s4
The seats are heavier than the engine when you're trying to maneuver them into position. For that reason, I can't imagine the rails got messed up somehow. Taking out/putting back sucks for sure.

I am a little surprised a veteran like you hasn't been there and done that. I'm only a few years in and I've had my seats out probably 6 times, including for one of this year's spring projects: seat recovering.
I take my 78 Blumaxx seats in and out all the time, since I have a very nice spare seat set I bought a few years back, and I store my good pascha seats and just use them for special shows. They are manual though, and weigh a fraction of these more modern, electrical leather wrapped concrete blocks. I've had this 85 for about a year now, and finally getting to the interior. After Carlisle, that driver's seat is coming back out for the cable realignment per Pete's advice above. I think they should be even, and Shark2626 hit the nail on the head - I probably flicked the switch on that one before I had the bolts out on one side.

Originally Posted by C531XHO
Horrible job. On of the first I did on my 80S as someone had swapped the seats and not connected the cut looms. The rails were offset relative to each other but I recall having the right tools being vital for the work - magnet when you drop the threaded plates etc., ball end hex driver for the bolts, preferably both to fit a ratchet handle and T bar
Yes, the tools are critical. I actually had a couple of alllen heads snap off when I removed them (Driver's side) on in the worst position - inner rail, second bolt in, by the torque tube tunnel. Fortunately, a reverse drill made quick work of the stubs once the seat was all the way out.

But this goes to show, the early cars are so much easier to work on. There is more room in the engine bay, things are lighter, there are fewer electrical things to go wrong, etc.
Old 04-29-2021, 10:20 PM
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I've had the uneven rail issue once and the seat would bind up when moving, had to do the manual alignment using an hex bit 1/4 turn at a time.
My sequence for removal is now: move seats forward, remove rear bolts (slotted holes) first, then move seats rearward, remove front bolts from non slotted holes
Won't mess that up up again

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NOTE put a dot of paint on the rail and the chassis where each bolt goes this makes lining things up as easy as 1 2.... What?
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To make sure I understand, your recline in both seats isn't working, and you've replaced the switches with known good ones? (new ones are not necessarily good ones)

Check for continuity in the wires.
There's a zip tie that holds the wires to the S-springs on the bottom of the seat cushion.
It's super-duper tight.

It's been known to cause the conductor to break inside the insulation.
An easy way to check is to shove a needle into each wire above the zip tie. Apply 12 volts to the needles and see what happens.
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Use a framing square on the bolt holes in the car and measure the difference. Repeat on the seat.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
To make sure I understand, your recline in both seats isn't working, and you've replaced the switches with known good ones? (new ones are not necessarily good ones)

Check for continuity in the wires.
There's a zip tie that holds the wires to the S-springs on the bottom of the seat cushion.
It's super-duper tight.

It's been known to cause the conductor to break inside the insulation.
An easy way to check is to shove a needle into each wire above the zip tie. Apply 12 volts to the needles and see what happens.
No the two sides have different issues. The driver's side, recline does not work. Replaced with new switch. Passenger side, seat ravels horizontally back, but does not travel horizontally forward. Rebuilt that switch. Switches both work fine. All other positions on both seats work as they should.



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