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hacker-pschorr, Guess i should not have said Ferrari. Just a finely tuned euro sports car sound is what I want as opposed to american muscle car sound.
My Jaguar and my T-bird both sound pretty good so I am sure the 928 can too.
hacker-pschorr, Guess i should not have said Ferrari. Just a finely tuned euro sports car sound is what I want as opposed to american muscle car sound.
My Jaguar and my T-bird both sound pretty good so I am sure the 928 can too.
What vintage T-bird?
I hear where you are coming from, exhaust preference is very personal, a lot of options have been tried and tested. Some feel the RMB is just the right amount of loud, when I installed one on my 87 I barely noticed any difference. The X-pipe is the best place to start for performance so you're on the right path there.
The plan for my 87 is headers with a Y-pipe and single exhaust, not sure on the muffler yet. This setup is more for overall function since I'll have a transmission cooler in place of the passenger side muffler. I'm sure there will be some $$$ spending testing different mufflers as I figure out how I want it to sound.
This is Tim Murphy's car with the Stage 3 supercharger installed. He changed the exhaust a few times over the years but I seem to recall this was with an X-pipe, GT mid-mufflers and custom RMB with muffled exhaust tips.
With the RMB and the X pipe, it sounds like an American hot rod.
Any ideas how I can make it sound more like a fine tuned European machine than a Vintage vette?
My S4 has the following and sounds like an exotic and is not loud - to me it is perfect:
Stock exhaust manifolds
Louie Ott X pipe
GT resonators
S4 muffler
My GT racecar sounds like an exotic, but is louder:
Headers
X pipe
2 Magnaflow mufflers
RMB
So with your currently available hardware try this:
Exhaust manifolds
X pipe
S4 resonators
S4 muffler
I've never tried the S4 resonators, but give it a try anyway - it is the x-pipe which gives it the nice exotic wail.
I found that when you combine the two sides together in a single exhaust configuration after an X-pipe, it changes the sound from a NASCAR V8 sound, to a more mellow exotic V8 sound. Was often told the 86.5 Coca-Cola track car was the best sounding car at DE events by onlookers and corner workers.
It had a custom y pipe to a 3.5 inch single stainless exhaust pipe capped of by one straight through Magnaflow muffler at that time. The muffler was removable.
As a side note, don't know what clamps are being used for the x-pipe kit, but we used stainless steel band clamps around the sections that had two bolts at each end. When you tightened the bolts, the stainless band would literally shrink around the joint and seal it up beautifully. Never had a problem with exhaust leaks.
However as said elsewhere, exhaust notes are a personal matter and it takes some trial and error to mix and match to get the sound you want.
Well, I tightened the clamps all the way down from the X pipe to the rear pipes and guess what? It still leaks at the joint! Not very audible but if you put your hand there, you can feel the hot air coming out!
Need a plan "B". Ideas anyone?
Also, reinstalled the rear muffler and like the sound a lot better.
Foe those who don'r remember, it is heavy as hell and hurts when you slip and drop it on your face!
YEAH: More info on exhaust paste??? please.
I junked the WHITE exhaust wrap that came with the kit because there wasn't enough to work on mine. I think they missed a piece or it was never packed in the box, there is no other reason. I just went to Advance Auto and bought Header Wrap and followed the same instructions....seemed to work fine, but it's still a PIA to get it seated right. My only reluctance with a "paste" is getting the exhaust apart later. If the stuff will come apart (like hondabond) different story, If it's JB weld....I wouldn't do it. I had to take mine off for TT repairs and it would have SUCKED if I could't remove Xpipe
MY 2cents: As for sound....I like what I have. 86.5 stock manifolds, Porken Chipped, X Pipe, intermediates, RMB. As H-S shows above you get most of the sound from the crank and motor...the "can" choice does make a difference or we wouldn't have taken the stock one-off, but unless you hear what you want set up the same as your car front to back...it's expensive to chase a sound and maybe impossible. The Crank is most of it....Harley V Twins don't sound like Hondas even with the same exhaust set up. The new Mustang GT 350 has the FPC vs. the standard Coyote motor....that That's the secret sauce, not the exhaust as much.
This is the style band clamp we used for the exhaust sections of the Coke racer.
Did a very good job sealing the joint. This one come preformed, others are solid and will deform around the joint as you tighten the two bolts.
What comes with the kit?
They look similar, Roger may know the exact brand, but I think the pipe maker supplies 100% of it.....but they subtly different than the picture and are solid with no separation in the middle and look 2x longer than that one.. There is a section of white woven exhaust wrap in each clamp box (well....there should have been) that looks like the old unwaxed/protected wrap made of cotton (though I"m sure it' not cotton). The clamps themselves are fine. I don't have the instructions in front of me, but still have them. You basically take a section that will go around the pipe of the exhaust wrap, fold it in half, and the x-pipe is the male and intermediate muffler section is the female. The folded edge goes against the female lip around the X-pipe and essentially creates a "crush washer" seal out of fabric, for the lack of a better explanation.
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