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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 01:22 PM
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That looks the same green as the 'grey green', but you don't have any grey carpets.

It's possible it came that way, it's possible a previous owner (PO) decided to install green carpeting.

Unfortunately, the guys who have factory build data don't have anything for color (interior or exterior).

You could put the original VIN (the one that goes WP0ZZZ...) in the Official VIN Check sticky thread and get the options, but the only way to get colors is from the factory/dealer. And then you have to hope they have the correct info.
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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This green looks much darker than the green in my 86. However, it looks just like the 86’+ sports seats I have on the shelf.
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
That looks the same green as the 'grey green', but you don't have any grey carpets.

It's possible it came that way, it's possible a previous owner (PO) decided to install green carpeting.

Unfortunately, the guys who have factory build data don't have anything for color (interior or exterior).

You could put the original VIN (the one that goes WP0ZZZ...) in the Official VIN Check sticky thread and get the options, but the only way to get colors is from the factory/dealer. And then you have to hope they have the correct info.
the org vin tag on the dash. Was canceled by Porsche ag. When you run it it comes back as nothing. There is a re issued vin tag from California But that one is no help
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 04:41 PM
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Hmm it seems you have leather....never saw "that" green color of leather in a Porsche until the 993 era.

1983 ROW interior fabrics brochure shows no greens at all, but one could get pretty much anything they wanted if they paid enough. It would be nice to run your VIN in the VIN check thread , maybe you have a leather-to-sample car. .....so tell us more about a "canceled VIN" in California.




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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 06:53 PM
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From the paper work I have. The vehicle was imported to the USA from Saudi Arabia . At some point it was sized buy the fbi .in Southern California. That was when the California vin was issued. I bought the car from a dealer in Arizona. He bought it from the org owner .
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 07:13 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bob bonderant


I will take more in a bit
Would someone please explain what this thread is about? I don't get it, at all.

The online Internet images you posted above are from the car dealer Arizona Muscle; they had a one or two owner green manual 928, fairly low milage IIRC. So you bought that car and you are wondering if its something super rare or what?
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 08:20 PM
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Would someone please explain what this thread is about? I don't get it, at all.

The online Internet images you posted above are from the car dealer Arizona Muscle; they had a one or two owner green manual 928, fairly low milage IIRC. So you bought that car and you are wondering if its something super rare or what?
. I was just picking people s brains if they had ever come across something like this . I can find no information about the car and the interior seems to be a special order ?
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bob bonderant
. I was just picking people s brains if they had ever come across something like this . I can find no information about the car and the interior seems to be a special order ?
The car you grabbed is a beautiful example, no doubt! Nice choice.

ETA Porsche.us is super responsive and they should have the information that you are seeking. Try sending a note with details to:

customer.commitment@porsche.us

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Well, that's an interesting letter.

If I am reading it correctly, during the original import, before it got federalized (it mentions posting the import bond), Customs thought the VIN looked 'altered'. As in 'stolen'. So they seized it and sent it to the FBI. Who apparently determined that the VIN was altered, by the factory. Since the VIN was questionable, they issued a 'special California VIN'. Or maybe it was just issued the Cali VIN as part of the federalization process.
That often happened during the federalization process. Sometimes the "new" VIN ends up on the title. Since it's usually just a sticker on the door jamb, and doesn't match with the actual VIN on the car, that can cause all sorts of trouble. Especially if the sticker gets damaged or painted over.
Many times that 'special VIN' gets ignored and the title reflects the 'frame VIN'. That was the case with mine. The VIN on my title is 'WP0ZZZ...", not the one issued by New Jersey when it was imported.

That letter only means that Porsche changed the VIN at some point before the car was sold by the dealer. No clue why. No clue how often this sort of thing has happened. Some of the 'detective types' might know.

However, it sounds like the "altered VIN" was the factory VIN. So I put it in the "Official VIN Check" sticky thread.
We shall see what comes up.

Have you contacted Porsche at all on this?
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
Well, that's an interesting letter.

If I am reading it correctly, during the original import, before it got federalized (it mentions posting the import bond), Customs thought the VIN looked 'altered'. As in 'stolen'. So they seized it and sent it to the FBI. Who apparently determined that the VIN was altered, by the factory. Since the VIN was questionable, they issued a 'special California VIN'. Or maybe it was just issued the Cali VIN as part of the federalization process.
That often happened during the federalization process. Sometimes the "new" VIN ends up on the title. Since it's usually just a sticker on the door jamb, and doesn't match with the actual VIN on the car, that can cause all sorts of trouble. Especially if the sticker gets damaged or painted over.
Many times that 'special VIN' gets ignored and the title reflects the 'frame VIN'. That was the case with mine. The VIN on my title is 'WP0ZZZ...", not the one issued by New Jersey when it was imported.

That letter only means that Porsche changed the VIN at some point before the car was sold by the dealer. No clue why. No clue how often this sort of thing has happened. Some of the 'detective types' might know.

However, it sounds like the "altered VIN" was the factory VIN. So I put it in the "Official VIN Check" sticky thread.
We shall see what comes up.

Have you contacted Porsche at all on this?
I have not contacted anyone other then the guys on the list .
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:06 AM
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From the VIN check thread, it's obviously "special" in some way:


WP0ZZZ92ZDS841137

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WP0ZZZ92ZDS841137

1983 Euro S
C99 - 'Special'
M28.11 - engine serial # range 82D 0001 >5000
G28.07 - transmission serial # range 11D 0001>5000

M058 - "Impact absorbers front and rear, Bumper with shock absorber instead of
shock absorber-tube"
M261 - Outside mirror - plain-Passenger's side, electrically adjustable and heatable
I395 - Forged wheels, silver colored anodized, 7JX16, tire 225/50 VR 16
I417 - Rear package box
M438 - 6-way Comfort seat right, electrically adjustable, 78-84
I454 - Automatic speed control
I468 - Side glasses green and windshield green - upper part dark colored)
M650 - Sunroof
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by aerolithe


Very unusual and nice!

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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:12 AM
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C99 could refer to the Saudi delivery:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...codes-c99.html

Next stop: Porsche COA, now known as a "PPS"

https://www.pca.org/resource/porsche...thenticity-coa

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