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Winter 928's and RUST

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Old 03-01-2004, 10:38 PM
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Unhappy Winter 928's and RUST

I have been wondering how corrosion resistant the 928 is if driven in the winter salt and snow. Has anyone been driving theirs in the snow or has seen one that was after several years? I have never seen a 928 with rust on it. Mine is spotless, so-to--speak

My guess would be, rear trunk lid near the bumper, rear quarters around the wheel and the floor would START gettting rust after 150,000 miles, but its only a guess. But then I've seen 1970's mercedes driving around, with a million miles and no rust! So the question remains, how many miles under everyday usage would it take a 928 to get some body cancer?
Old 03-01-2004, 10:53 PM
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I thought that a few of the guys in down state Michigan drive year-round. I can't because we have too much snow on the roads for a rear-wheel drive car with fat tires. Maybe the down state guys could tell you. (Big Dave, Bill Coleman, and Dozman).
Old 03-01-2004, 11:17 PM
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I bought a Michigan car.

Everything under the car, all the bolts and what not, are frozen solid untill I get to them. You have to be very careful or you strip things out.

The only bit of body rust is along the lower lip of the rear quater windows. Crappy aftermarket paint job I guess.

The underbody protection rubber stuff did a pretty good job keeping rust away from the body.
Old 03-01-2004, 11:59 PM
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Oddly enough, a large-ish HOLE has shown up, on my driver's doorsill, at the rear of the sill cover. And, there are a couple bubbles showing up, on the lower edge of the driver's side quarter glass seal.

My shark originally was sold in New Jersey, then migrated to the Florida coast. So it probably saw a lot of salt, in various forms......
Old 03-02-2004, 12:25 AM
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My 928 has a small patch of rust on one of the door sills, a bubble around one of the rear quarter trims and some bubbling right near the base of one windshield wiper. I've watched everything closely since I drive it year round, and no new spots have appeared. The ones that are there have not grown. Then again, salt never stays on the car more than 48-72 hours.

My 928 started in Florida and migrated to Michigan. The previous Michigan owner garaged it during the winter, so I can't be certain where the rust started. My brother who lives in Florida tells me cars that are near the ocean get a good amount of salt on them just carried from the wind.
Old 03-02-2004, 01:33 AM
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Rust? What's that? Louie's car had a large contingent of heat shields etc rusted but I think the body/frame itself was unharmed. It was Canadian.
Old 03-02-2004, 09:32 AM
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My hatch is shot. I also have slight rust the driver side rear quarter, rear corner of the window. Mine is a Florida car. I believe it has been its whole life.
Old 03-02-2004, 10:31 AM
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None - never driven in Winter, unless the roads are salt free.
Old 03-02-2004, 11:04 AM
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Quote from Big Dave:

My 928 has a small patch of rust on one of the door sills, a bubble around one of the rear quarter trims and some bubbling right near the base of one windshield wiper. I've watched everything closely since I drive it year round, and no new spots have appeared. The ones that are there have not grown. Then again, salt never stays on the car more than 48-72 hours.
Rust does not sleep! If you have rust, it is growing. No question about it. It may not be bubbling up in new areas or even increasing in diameter yet. The key word is YET! Rust is like an abscess. It's an infection that will continue to fester and go deeper and deeper. If it gets into an internal cavity (like a door sill) it will literally eat the car from the inside out. There's a reason why people call rust cancer - because if not treated, it will take over and kill your car!

As for my p-car, no rust - but then I don't drive it during the winter. Doing the timing belt and other stuff right now. Hope to have it ready to roll in another week or so.
Old 03-02-2004, 11:21 AM
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This make me realise how fortunate I am. Here in SA we never get snow, well here where I stay anyway, in the mountain areas we do but if any main roads are effected its only for two to three days per year and then the roads are closed - no salt.

I can't imagine not being able to drive my baby, when ever I do not drive it for more than three or four days I start getting withdrawal symptoms.

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Old 03-02-2004, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Don '85S3
None - never driven in Winter, unless the roads are salt free.
Same here, except that there are no exceptions, they are never driven in the winter.
Old 03-02-2004, 11:28 AM
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Doesn't take Winter. THat's just an accelerant.

Around rear wheel wells. On rear hatch.
Old 03-02-2004, 11:37 AM
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I drive mine every day in Toronto. In any given year there may be a week or two when the snow is too deep to take it out of the driveway (the car is terrible in the snow with "all season" tires and tolerable with proper "snow" tires). I have been doing this for the past five years. I wash the car frequently in the winter and then park it inside at the office afterwards to dry (otherwise you get frozen doors and windows etc.). I have absolutely no rust.

Incidentally, in the past I owned a 1981 924 Turbo. I drove that car year-round in Toronto for 14 years and it also had absolutely no rust after that abuse. It had perfect original paint when I sold it. Washing the car thoroughly and frequently really makes a difference. And by washing the car I don't mean just hosing it down or running it through an automatic car wash - if you're using your car this way it's important to do a thorough hand wash frequently so you can closely inspect everything and make necessary repairs as required.
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No rust on car at present. I am happy to say that my car has never seen winter duty (road salt) as it was a Georgia car (Atlanta) its entire life until I brought it to north central Florida last Fall. My guess is coastally based 928s experience more corrossion...any data to support that? Also, I would be curious to know the breakdown on the "OTHER" category in your POLL.

Thanks for this post...will help educate me as to vulnerable areas to be aware of when buying my NEXT 928 (manual tranny!)...someday I think I want an older 911 first, however....would like to have 1 of each design philosophy in the garage (yin and yang...y'know what I mean?).
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Originally posted by Andrew Olson
Rust does not sleep! If you have rust, it is growing. No question about it. It may not be bubbling up in new areas or even increasing in diameter yet. The key word is YET! Rust is like an abscess. It's an infection that will continue to fester and go deeper and deeper. If it gets into an internal cavity (like a door sill) it will literally eat the car from the inside out. There's a reason why people call rust cancer - because if not treated, it will take over and kill your car!
Hi Andrew.....I was wondering when you were going to chime in and say that!


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