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02-26-2004, 02:32 AM
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YES- that is how you pronounce the good doctor's Czech-German name!
-I've finally educated my neighbors; they no longer call my rumbling 928 a "porsh"- they know how to say the name correctly.
I know this is a silly thread and a silly subject, but things like this drive me crazy.
Could you please....when someone calls your car a "porsh" please correct them!
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-I've finally educated my neighbors; they no longer call my rumbling 928 a "porsh"- they know how to say the name correctly.
I know this is a silly thread and a silly subject, but things like this drive me crazy.
Could you please....when someone calls your car a "porsh" please correct them!
Normy!
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02-26-2004, 06:22 AM
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A drifter comes to a lonely farm house and asks the farmer, if he has some food to spare. The farmer tells him "I have never gotten anything for free in my life! Go around the house, there is a brush and a bucket of paint. Paint my porch - then I'm going to feed you."
The drifter accepts and disappears behind the house. Three hours later he re-emerges and claims to be done. The farmer invites him in the house and feeds him.
While the drifter munches on the food, he mumbles to the farmer: "By the way, you don't have a Porch. You have a BMW!"
The drifter accepts and disappears behind the house. Three hours later he re-emerges and claims to be done. The farmer invites him in the house and feeds him.
While the drifter munches on the food, he mumbles to the farmer: "By the way, you don't have a Porch. You have a BMW!"
02-26-2004, 10:49 AM
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This has always been an interesting subject, in 1983 Ferry Porshe was interviewed in English on the Armed Forces radio network (AFN) in Germany and asked how he pronounced the family name. His answer was something like "Pawsch' uh". There was no discernable "r", and the "uh" on the end was barely audible - many Americans at the time swore he said "Posh". It definately wasn't prounounced Por sha', with the accent on the second syllable, like the T-Shirt Paisley Group sells.
02-26-2004, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by MikeS4
This has always been an interesting subject, in 1983 Ferry Porshe was interviewed in English on the Armed Forces radio network (AFN) in Germany...
This has always been an interesting subject, in 1983 Ferry Porshe was interviewed in English on the Armed Forces radio network (AFN) in Germany...
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02-26-2004, 11:00 AM
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02-26-2004, 11:10 AM
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Watch the Porsche Carrera GT video that Midlman posted. It's pretty clear. The R may be a glottal R, not gutteral, which is common in parts of Germany (I believe). So, that would be very hard to hear over a radio. The last syllable is definitely pronounced. I don't think we pronounce many things correctly, as is pointed out in Bee Em Vee, Folks Vaa Gen, Mer Se Des .. not to mention Hee Yun De; To Yo Ta; etc. Strangely even the American Boeings pronounced their name differently from its correct pronunciation.
As do I mispronounce my own name, which is of course German, but I am not.
As do I mispronounce my own name, which is of course German, but I am not.
02-26-2004, 11:20 AM
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This is one of my favorite frivolous subjects regarding Porsche because I think North American P-car owners lord the pronunciation of Porsche over the great unwashed as if it separated the saved from the heathens.
I can understand that Nicole pronounces Porsche as a two syllable word - she speaks German. I can also understand that most of the rest of North America pronounces it as a one syllable word. That doesn't make them uneducated and unsophisticated slobs who know nothing about excellent cars or the rest of the world. Frankly I find it pretentious to hear someone announce that they own a "Porsha" when they fail to pronounce the name of their other car as "Folskvagen" or "BM Vay". Further, it's almost funny to hear one of these pretentious owners say "Porshaaa" with that second syllable hanging there for all to admire when in fact the word is properly pronounced as a 1 and a half syllable word (ask Nicole). That's right, when you say Porshaaaa you sound just as dumb as someone who says Porsh.
Sure, I know the argument that Porsche is a family name and should be pronounced the way the family pronounces it in their homeland. But if that were the norm then the English would be pronouncing names like Virginia Woolf as "Voolf" since the origin of that name is also German.
Also, Alan DeCadenet, who I'm sure everyone knows from Speed Channel, who was a Porsche factory driver, who speaks the Queen's English, pronounces it "Porsh".
I say let people pronounce it however they like. If you've got attitude that says you're somehow better than the people who pronounce it with one syllable then you are the ***** everyone thinks is inside the Porsche.
I can understand that Nicole pronounces Porsche as a two syllable word - she speaks German. I can also understand that most of the rest of North America pronounces it as a one syllable word. That doesn't make them uneducated and unsophisticated slobs who know nothing about excellent cars or the rest of the world. Frankly I find it pretentious to hear someone announce that they own a "Porsha" when they fail to pronounce the name of their other car as "Folskvagen" or "BM Vay". Further, it's almost funny to hear one of these pretentious owners say "Porshaaa" with that second syllable hanging there for all to admire when in fact the word is properly pronounced as a 1 and a half syllable word (ask Nicole). That's right, when you say Porshaaaa you sound just as dumb as someone who says Porsh.
Sure, I know the argument that Porsche is a family name and should be pronounced the way the family pronounces it in their homeland. But if that were the norm then the English would be pronouncing names like Virginia Woolf as "Voolf" since the origin of that name is also German.
Also, Alan DeCadenet, who I'm sure everyone knows from Speed Channel, who was a Porsche factory driver, who speaks the Queen's English, pronounces it "Porsh".
I say let people pronounce it however they like. If you've got attitude that says you're somehow better than the people who pronounce it with one syllable then you are the ***** everyone thinks is inside the Porsche.
02-26-2004, 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Realist D.
I say let people pronounce it however they like. If you've got attitude that says you're somehow better than the people who pronounce it with one syllable then you are the ***** everyone thinks is inside the Porsche.
I say let people pronounce it however they like. If you've got attitude that says you're somehow better than the people who pronounce it with one syllable then you are the ***** everyone thinks is inside the Porsche.
I have to admit, even though I do know the correct pronunciation, I usually say "Porsh" just cuz it's shorter...
Especially when you have to tell someone it's a "Por Sha Nine Two Eight"
02-26-2004, 11:59 AM
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I really don't care.
Take your pick, Porsssss, Porschaaa, or DamnFastRedCar, I know what your talking about, and I'm good to go.
Now when you start trying to call it a 911, I might get confused, so don't do that.
Lauange is a means of communication. Don't let the the details get in the way.
Take your pick, Porsssss, Porschaaa, or DamnFastRedCar, I know what your talking about, and I'm good to go.
Now when you start trying to call it a 911, I might get confused, so don't do that.
Lauange is a means of communication. Don't let the the details get in the way.
02-26-2004, 12:15 PM
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Viribus - language is more than that. It is an art, and it is a science. I wouldn't dream of criticising someone's use of a language in this forum because it's not relevant .... except insomuch as one must be able to understand what is written.
Personally, it is really important to me to try to be as correct as possible in all things.
Some people can live with hearsay and more-or-less, and in a way we all do ... it's the degree that varies. There is a threshhold below which it becomes garbage. If one knows the name of a car and wilfully mispronounces it ..... well, that to me is below that line. Or, if one realises one has a problem with spelling or grammar or driving ability ... and one chooses to ignore those and not ever make the first attempt to improve even slightly .... to each his own, but I can't live with that kind of low-performance attitude for my own life.
Personally, it is really important to me to try to be as correct as possible in all things.
Some people can live with hearsay and more-or-less, and in a way we all do ... it's the degree that varies. There is a threshhold below which it becomes garbage. If one knows the name of a car and wilfully mispronounces it ..... well, that to me is below that line. Or, if one realises one has a problem with spelling or grammar or driving ability ... and one chooses to ignore those and not ever make the first attempt to improve even slightly .... to each his own, but I can't live with that kind of low-performance attitude for my own life.