928 S4 vibration
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12 years in storage...... it lives !!!!
I was wondering if anybody could help. I have resurrected my 1987 S4 after 12 years in dry storage and it’s all go, very exciting... new belts, WP, checked flex plate, all good. No leaks. Perfect. Drives really good but just a couple of weird ones that I dont remember from before. When in neutral, at around 1000rpm I get a slight vibration that goes again when it’s up to about 1500 rpm.... almost feels like a cylinder is out but all plugs are clean and shown no sign of fouling. The wobble is somewhere else. If the bonnet is up you can see the wobble in the bonnet but the engine seems smooth. When I rev it up under the bonnet it does seem to have a slight hesitation where it draws a breath ... could it be related ?? Apart from that, it was good to get this baby back on the road with nothing but a good major service !!! I just need to iron out this little bit of lumpiness and it’ll be great ! The boot latch light switch is not working so all the courtesy lights stay on... where the heck is it ?!?!? It’s also not latching down properly and it take a good few slams before it behaves and closes... not bad after 12 years but need some help please. Cheers .Al
Last edited by Oilystair; 11-02-2019 at 07:28 AM. Reason: Spelling mistake
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I would put 6 oz of MMO into the fuel as well as a bottle of techron,
do lots of short rides so the chemicals have time to work .
For a car thats been sitting the best thing you can do is run as many tanks of gas through it as possible .
NOTE do atleast 2 tanks with the same chemicals that I suggested then report back.
do lots of short rides so the chemicals have time to work .
For a car thats been sitting the best thing you can do is run as many tanks of gas through it as possible .
NOTE do atleast 2 tanks with the same chemicals that I suggested then report back.
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I am suspicious of the condition of your motor mounts. Look at your front crossmember and evaluate the height of the oil pan relative to the crossmember. The oil pan should have more ground clearance than the crossmember. Your engine should shake with the blip of the throttle. Not the body of the car.
Another way to evaluate if the mounts are collapsed is to measure the gap between mount housing hooks. If you get a finger-width or more, the mounts should be replaced.
Another way to evaluate if the mounts are collapsed is to measure the gap between mount housing hooks. If you get a finger-width or more, the mounts should be replaced.
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Ok, thank you. Will try the fuel treatment although I am in New Zealand so I don’t know what that treatment is. Can you let me know what it is ie: a intake cleanser or injection cleaner so I can get the right stuff please. Also will check motor mounts, I wondered about those but they looked ok
at a casual glance. If you think a fingers width is a good indication I’ll do that or is there a specific measurement ?
thanks for your help guys.
Al
at a casual glance. If you think a fingers width is a good indication I’ll do that or is there a specific measurement ?
thanks for your help guys.
Al
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Great to see another 928 back on the road in NZ. Where are you? My guess is the Hawkes Bay with the beach in the background...?
From my experience checking the fuel pumps condition and the tank for sludge would be worthwhile along with the suggested dosing with cleaners.
From my experience checking the fuel pumps condition and the tank for sludge would be worthwhile along with the suggested dosing with cleaners.
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Great to see another 928 back on the road in NZ. Where are you? My guess is the Hawkes Bay with the beach in the background...?
From my experience checking the fuel pumps condition and the tank for sludge would be worthwhile along with the suggested dosing with cleaners.
From my experience checking the fuel pumps condition and the tank for sludge would be worthwhile along with the suggested dosing with cleaners.
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MMO is Marvel Mystery Oil
Techron is a product made by Chevron that eliminates Carbon buildup and cleans the fuel system
Techron is a product made by Chevron that eliminates Carbon buildup and cleans the fuel system
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Never been to New Zealand, but if you can take it for a long drive. 928s don't like short drives. Although my GTS has no issues, after a 4000 kmk drive to Germany and back this summer, the engine runs better.
Cruised most of the time between 70 to 80 MPH, but exceeded 160 MPH on the Autobahn a couple of times too.
Check the motor mounts, if your engine is solid when cranking and does not rock, you need new ones. talk to Roger.
All in German below (sorry), but go to 0:18 to see my engine move while cranking.
Cruised most of the time between 70 to 80 MPH, but exceeded 160 MPH on the Autobahn a couple of times too.
Check the motor mounts, if your engine is solid when cranking and does not rock, you need new ones. talk to Roger.
All in German below (sorry), but go to 0:18 to see my engine move while cranking.
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Never been to New Zealand, but if you can take it for a long drive. 928s don't like short drives. Although my GTS has no issues, after a 4000 kmk drive to Germany and back this summer, the engine runs better.
Cruised most of the time between 70 to 80 MPH, but exceeded 160 MPH on the Autobahn a couple of times too.
Check the motor mounts, if your engine is solid when cranking and does not rock, you need new ones. talk to Roger.
All in German below (sorry), but go to 0:18 to see my engine move while cranking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrfDtGsyl0
Cruised most of the time between 70 to 80 MPH, but exceeded 160 MPH on the Autobahn a couple of times too.
Check the motor mounts, if your engine is solid when cranking and does not rock, you need new ones. talk to Roger.
All in German below (sorry), but go to 0:18 to see my engine move while cranking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrfDtGsyl0
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Never been to New Zealand, but if you can take it for a long drive. 928s don't like short drives. Although my GTS has no issues, after a 4000 kmk drive to Germany and back this summer, the engine runs better.
Cruised most of the time between 70 to 80 MPH, but exceeded 160 MPH on the Autobahn a couple of times too.
Check the motor mounts, if your engine is solid when cranking and does not rock, you need new ones. talk to Roger.
All in German below (sorry), but go to 0:18 to see my engine move while cranking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrfDtGsyl0
Cruised most of the time between 70 to 80 MPH, but exceeded 160 MPH on the Autobahn a couple of times too.
Check the motor mounts, if your engine is solid when cranking and does not rock, you need new ones. talk to Roger.
All in German below (sorry), but go to 0:18 to see my engine move while cranking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvrfDtGsyl0
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That intake doesn't look too low to me.
But I much prefer the 'is the oil pan below the crossmember' check myself (post #3).
Nobody seems to have responded to your question about the hatch light switch.
It's actually inside the latch mechanism. If you look down into the body part of the latch, you should see a round white disc. That's the top of the switch. Press down on it and the lights should go out. You can take off the tool panel (interior panel at the back) and you will see the wiring. Disconnect the wires and you can remove the switch from the circuit.
But I much prefer the 'is the oil pan below the crossmember' check myself (post #3).
Nobody seems to have responded to your question about the hatch light switch.
It's actually inside the latch mechanism. If you look down into the body part of the latch, you should see a round white disc. That's the top of the switch. Press down on it and the lights should go out. You can take off the tool panel (interior panel at the back) and you will see the wiring. Disconnect the wires and you can remove the switch from the circuit.
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That intake doesn't look too low to me.
But I much prefer the 'is the oil pan below the crossmember' check myself (post #3).
Nobody seems to have responded to your question about the hatch light switch.
It's actually inside the latch mechanism. If you look down into the body part of the latch, you should see a round white disc. That's the top of the switch. Press down on it and the lights should go out. You can take off the tool panel (interior panel at the back) and you will see the wiring. Disconnect the wires and you can remove the switch from the circuit.
But I much prefer the 'is the oil pan below the crossmember' check myself (post #3).
Nobody seems to have responded to your question about the hatch light switch.
It's actually inside the latch mechanism. If you look down into the body part of the latch, you should see a round white disc. That's the top of the switch. Press down on it and the lights should go out. You can take off the tool panel (interior panel at the back) and you will see the wiring. Disconnect the wires and you can remove the switch from the circuit.
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If you want a good pic or two of the switch, look at the '01117 Restoration' thread, last page, post 270. It's got a nice 'down the latch' picture. Thread is currently on page 3.
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I’m chasing my tail here. I’ve taken all the switches out, cleaned them, and the interior lights still stay on. Disconnecting the battery each time is getting tedious. I’ve turned all the interior lights off but that red one in the door is always on.... you can see it in the crack in the dark. grrrrr !!! Any thoughts ???