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10-29-2019, 02:43 PM
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Not apples to apples.. Let's make no mistake about the intended utility of government subsidies. It is a mechanism of price control. Farming, as we know it now, might not exist without the subsidies.. but it wouldn't cease to exist.
10-29-2019, 03:15 PM
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I would prefer to see subsidies go to small-to-medium sized farmers that own their means of production, not "Agribusiness" where the actual farmers are 'serfs'.
10-29-2019, 03:19 PM
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Right, Kiln Red, the main reason why we have subsidies for farmers is that US government has since the 50s targeted a cheap food policy. The mechanisms of farming do not lend itself easy to big business either. Returns are very irregular and big public companies will likely never verticalize their production chain to include the job of the small farmer, because the returns can not be regularized. Not apple to apples at all.
The real question now is if this cheap food policy still serves the interests of the nation. America leads the world in obesity partially because of this cheap food policy based on corn. Higher food prices could and likely would cause massive social unrest even though the cheap food we are feeding the poor people is terribly unhealthy. Just my view on that, but lets "return to our sheep" here, 928s.
The real question now is if this cheap food policy still serves the interests of the nation. America leads the world in obesity partially because of this cheap food policy based on corn. Higher food prices could and likely would cause massive social unrest even though the cheap food we are feeding the poor people is terribly unhealthy. Just my view on that, but lets "return to our sheep" here, 928s.
10-29-2019, 03:47 PM
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The "urgency" for EV's has nothing to do with running out of oil or gas. It's the idea of daily transportation being provided by a renewable resource. Now don't go tossing back about coal generated electricity, I'm fully aware. That's not the point. The renewable energy sector is growing by leaps and bounds, anyone expecting such things to happen overnight is foolish.
Frankly I love the idea of an EV for my daily driver. Never having to stop for gas is the #1 reason why my wife wants one and asks all the time when we are getting an EV. It's only a matter of time before I'll have one in the garage next to my 928's. I'll also have solar panels, a battery system and some kind of wind turbine or two on my property.
Farming is subsidized, is there no demand for food? Not to mention the billions of dollars in subsidizes that goes to fossil fuel companies. I guess there's no demand for their products either?
I don't like subsidizes either, but that's a separate topic which encompasses a whole lot of industries, not just EV's.
As for classic cars with modern electric power, ask Aston Martin & Jaguar about it:
https://electrek.co/2018/08/23/jagua...ev-conversion/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...n-heritage-ev/
Frankly I love the idea of an EV for my daily driver. Never having to stop for gas is the #1 reason why my wife wants one and asks all the time when we are getting an EV. It's only a matter of time before I'll have one in the garage next to my 928's. I'll also have solar panels, a battery system and some kind of wind turbine or two on my property.
Farming is subsidized, is there no demand for food? Not to mention the billions of dollars in subsidizes that goes to fossil fuel companies. I guess there's no demand for their products either?
I don't like subsidizes either, but that's a separate topic which encompasses a whole lot of industries, not just EV's.
As for classic cars with modern electric power, ask Aston Martin & Jaguar about it:
https://electrek.co/2018/08/23/jagua...ev-conversion/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...n-heritage-ev/
Why is farming subsidized? Because of the notion food must be cheap. Cheap enough for people to buy, but then farmers can't pay their bills. Rain on the scarecrow...
Farming, or corn in particular is subsidized by those who want E10 and E85 fuels.
In the 1980s, I remember my relatives telling me how the govt. paid them not to farm some of their land, and then crop insurance made up the difference if the rest didn't cash out enough, due to issues with the crop or season.
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10-29-2019, 03:56 PM
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America leads the world in obesity partially because of this cheap food policy based on corn. Higher food prices could and likely would cause massive social unrest even though the cheap food we are feeding the poor people is terribly unhealthy. Just my view on that, but lets "return to our sheep" here, 928s.
Oh, and check your e-mail...
10-30-2019, 07:14 AM
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Does cheap food have to be 'bad' food. We have spent many decades engineering the 'goodness' out of our food in favor of what? Crop yield? Flavor? Texture? Bread, centuries ago, used to be good food. But, we've 'evolved' the protein out of wheat to the point where bread is the first thing you gotta stop eating.
Oh, and check your e-mail...
Oh, and check your e-mail...
But about 928's... They are not subsidized, or receiving any type of charity or philanthropic support. 928's are maintained purely because we appreciate their beauty and mechanical brilliance.
10-30-2019, 09:21 AM
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