Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

"Belly Pan"?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-21-2019, 11:52 PM
  #16  
Wisconsin Joe
Nordschleife Master
 
Wisconsin Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Kaukauna Wisconsin
Posts: 5,926
Received 303 Likes on 232 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Christopher Zach
Honest question: Does the pre 87 shield really have any practical value? If so what makes it worth the millions people seem to want to pay for it?

My solution for what to do when the temps outside hit 100-115 degrees is to park the Porsches and take the Insight.
Yes. When it's attached, the air flows through the radiator better. The pan increases the suction right behind it. The air still flows reasonably well without it, but better with.
Also, it keeps debris from being sucked up into the accessory belts. Plastic bags are one of the worst culprits for that.
Last, it provides some protection for the alternator & AC compressor. Not a lot, but some.

Originally Posted by Christopher Zach
...Most times when my 928S grounds out it seems to take the hit on those two forward skid plates ahead of the suspension. The fact it does this either means the car is too low or it needs new front shocks, I'm not sure which. I think I'll measure people's ground clearances at Frenzy.
Are you talking about the factory tow hooks/LCA front mounts? Or actual skid plates, like those sold by 928 Motorsports?

Ride height is measured at the bottom of the rear mount for the front LCA and the bottom of the rear suspension arm. Actual locations and heights are listed in the WSM.
The following users liked this post:
928FIXER (08-23-2019)
Old 07-22-2019, 04:03 AM
  #17  
WALTSTAR
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
WALTSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 825
Received 45 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I saw the cover going under the alternator a bit and although I could shape it that way, I figured to leave some clearance so that air would flow under the alternator more easily. Although one has scrapes on occasion, I am cognizant of my ride height compared to my other vehicles. Thanks for the info, I have something to think about.
Old 08-11-2019, 04:11 PM
  #18  
WALTSTAR
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
WALTSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 825
Received 45 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I am done with the cut and fit. These will be installed at the level of the bottom of the front chin spoiler and extend to the oil pan. What are your opinions and does anyone want one? It is cut from 1/8" aluminum sheet stock

.
Old 08-22-2019, 10:39 PM
  #19  
WALTSTAR
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
WALTSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 825
Received 45 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

My version of a front belly pan. Finished and installed product (if anyone cares).
The following users liked this post:
JBGold07 (08-22-2019)
Old 08-22-2019, 11:58 PM
  #20  
Jason89s4
Rennlist Member
 
Jason89s4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Dallas
Posts: 770
Received 105 Likes on 69 Posts
Default

Nice! Do you have pics before installed with your mounting holes drilled?
I cannot really tell from you pic how it is mounted. Are there any mounting points at the front edge?
-Jason
Old 08-23-2019, 08:22 AM
  #21  
WALTSTAR
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
WALTSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 825
Received 45 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I built steel standoffs that mount to the five radiator housing holes for the body of the pan (visible in a row). The front of the pan sits on the lower lip of the spoiler braced between the brake ducts with two strips of structural foam & structural silicone.
Old 08-23-2019, 08:46 AM
  #22  
gbgastowers
Rennlist Member
 
gbgastowers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Holden Beach and Winston-Salem, North Carolina 82 928 Euro S 5spd MOSS GREEN/CHAMPAGNE-04 996 C4S CONV TIP POLAR SILVER/METROPOL BLUE
Posts: 2,513
Received 302 Likes on 173 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
I am done with the cut and fit. These will be installed at the level of the bottom of the front chin spoiler and extend to the oil pan. What are your opinions and does anyone want one? It is cut from 1/8" aluminum sheet stock

.
I want one. How much $?
Old 08-23-2019, 08:58 AM
  #23  
Christopher Zach
Rennlist Member
 
Christopher Zach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 1,124
Received 73 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

I'd go for one. Cost and shipping are the key questions.
Old 08-23-2019, 09:16 AM
  #24  
G8RB8
Nordschleife Master
 
G8RB8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 8,200
Received 407 Likes on 288 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by WALTSTAR
I built steel standoffs that mount to the five radiator housing holes for the body of the pan (visible in a row). The front of the pan sits on the lower lip of the spoiler braced between the brake ducts with two strips of structural foam & structural silicone.
I hope you considered what would break first in a strike so you don't tear up something expensive or vital.
Old 08-23-2019, 09:58 AM
  #25  
Crumpler
Three Wheelin'
 
Crumpler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,712
Received 78 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

Walt it looks good.
Old 08-23-2019, 12:55 PM
  #26  
76FJ55
Rennlist Member
 
76FJ55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 1,678
Received 117 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

I think it looks great. I like the concept, but also think it would be good to keep the intent of the original pan of reducing the chance of the cooling air from recycling through the radiator. Since you now the location and height of the standoffs, would it be possible to bond a section of construction foam just in front of the bolt holes so that is seals to the chassis in front of the stand offs similar to the original pan? As this area is essentially shielded from aerodynamic loading the foam should be sufficient as all it need to do is block the air from moving forward due to the fan creating a low pressure in front of the radiator.

Giving this a little more thought (and I will need to take a closer look at my car for feasibility) it may make more sense to close out the gap between the upper edge pf the spoiler and the chassis at the grill slats. that would effectively force any air coming in through the grill to go through the radiator instead of allowing any to diver down below the lower radiator support cross member.
Old 08-23-2019, 05:03 PM
  #27  
WALTSTAR
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
WALTSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 825
Received 45 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I designed the standoffs to fold if compressed so that the pan would not interfere with the radiator core structure. I already blocked off the airflow in the space of the standoffs with a structural foam member so that all of the air is directed through the radiator or below the pan itself. I would think that it could work with a 5mm acrylic sheet. What are your thoughts about that? I could reproduce this construction for $550 each in aluminum shipped.. One would need a chin spoiler for it to work, however.
Old 09-21-2019, 08:21 AM
  #28  
WALTSTAR
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
WALTSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 825
Received 45 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Well, the 75 mile shakedown run proved the pan to work in keeping the temps down. I actually saw the needle drop below the second line while cruising on the highway. Although my temp gun says the engine is running way below 200 degrees, the indicator works fine and showed a decrease none-the-less.



Quick Reply: "Belly Pan"?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:13 AM.