91 S4, value? Interest?
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91 S4, value? Interest?
It’s back on the market.
Owner now says engine overheated, hasn’t been started since.
91 S4, auto, sunroof, A/C not working, new steering rack.
So, I looked at this car back in August and passed on it. The owner wanted $12K, looked at pictures and descriptions and countered at $11K, subject to drive.
The ride was very stiff, old twist knuckles spacers in the rear coils and the car still sat low. The paint and dash were very nice, seats and the rest of the interior just OK. Cold oil pressure was good, but once warmed up, the oil pressure dropped to almost nothing at idle. Thrust bearings?
I just got a text from the owner (not a Porsche guy) wondering if I had found a different car and stating he was open to any offer, needed to make room in his garage. He had bought a Hellcat prior to placing the 928 up for sale in August.
The other interesting thing, salvage title. The car was stolen in California shortly after initial sale in 92 or 93 and car fax confirmed the title issue from back then.
What is this thing really worth and is anyone interested? I bought a really nice 80 and am getting my 83 Euro ready for sale, so I don’t have a strong interest in buying this, but I’m curious as to value.
Owner now says engine overheated, hasn’t been started since.
91 S4, auto, sunroof, A/C not working, new steering rack.
So, I looked at this car back in August and passed on it. The owner wanted $12K, looked at pictures and descriptions and countered at $11K, subject to drive.
The ride was very stiff, old twist knuckles spacers in the rear coils and the car still sat low. The paint and dash were very nice, seats and the rest of the interior just OK. Cold oil pressure was good, but once warmed up, the oil pressure dropped to almost nothing at idle. Thrust bearings?
I just got a text from the owner (not a Porsche guy) wondering if I had found a different car and stating he was open to any offer, needed to make room in his garage. He had bought a Hellcat prior to placing the 928 up for sale in August.
The other interesting thing, salvage title. The car was stolen in California shortly after initial sale in 92 or 93 and car fax confirmed the title issue from back then.
What is this thing really worth and is anyone interested? I bought a really nice 80 and am getting my 83 Euro ready for sale, so I don’t have a strong interest in buying this, but I’m curious as to value.
Last edited by Billu; 08-29-2020 at 06:01 PM. Reason: Pix
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How many miles?
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the low oil pressure is probably one of the block off pins in the cam journal has fallen out,
dont keep driving it like this as damage to the mains and rods will occur
dont keep driving it like this as damage to the mains and rods will occur
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The pics don't match the actual car. Or do they? Please explain: you say it is automatic. In the first pic, the rear bumper shows "928 GT." When it was salvaged and I assume repaired they put a GT badged bumper on it? The alignment of the GT looks a little off so I'm thinking that is not original? Some teenager playing with letters?
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OK, in order...
I don’t think the car, as it sits, is worth anywhere around $12K.
The owner obviously doesn’t either, as he texted me looking for “any offer”.
Mileage, about 80K.
The oil pressure seems to have been an issue for a while, as the current owner had the car serviced for “oil pressure readings”. The shop, supposedly an independent that has 928 experience, replaced the sender.
Pictures are of the car. Yes, the GT badge is incorrect. It is an automatic.
Anyone have an opinion on value, assuming the engine is bad?
I don’t think the car, as it sits, is worth anywhere around $12K.
The owner obviously doesn’t either, as he texted me looking for “any offer”.
Mileage, about 80K.
The oil pressure seems to have been an issue for a while, as the current owner had the car serviced for “oil pressure readings”. The shop, supposedly an independent that has 928 experience, replaced the sender.
Pictures are of the car. Yes, the GT badge is incorrect. It is an automatic.
Anyone have an opinion on value, assuming the engine is bad?
Last edited by Billu; 01-14-2019 at 12:53 PM. Reason: Add info
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Whoa, assuming the engine is bad is a very far leap from what's been posted so far. It might be as simple as someone putting modern 5-20 oil in it. Or, the cam plug, or worn oil pump gears. If the int is similar to the ext, that's a lot of cost avoided. I'm not going to offer a number until we KNOW the engine situation. Metal in the filter? Correct oil? Cam plugs all fitted? Flex plate relief with new clamp? I mean, if the guy just wants it out of there I'll toss $5k at it right now.
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As far as I'm concerned there isn't a Twin Cities shop, independent or Dealer, that I would let near my 928 Engine! I verified this with a retired factory trained 928 Mechanic.
Suspension is a different story.
Wondering what Independent looked at this car?
Suspension is a different story.
Wondering what Independent looked at this car?
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I don’t know the engine is bad, but I don’t know that it’s good.
Local work was done by “Auto Edge”.
I have a copy of the work order and bill.
The interior is mostly decent, but the front seats have been coated with something to fill cracks that looks like crap.
Seller seems motivated.
I’m not interested right now.
If someone is, pm me and I’ll provide contact info.
Local work was done by “Auto Edge”.
I have a copy of the work order and bill.
The interior is mostly decent, but the front seats have been coated with something to fill cracks that looks like crap.
Seller seems motivated.
I’m not interested right now.
If someone is, pm me and I’ll provide contact info.
Last edited by Billu; 01-14-2019 at 01:26 PM. Reason: Add info
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Still way too much for the unknowns. Someone had a very nice 87 in Sioux Falls SD with no known issues for about that same amount.