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Billu 01-13-2019 07:35 PM

91 S4, value? Interest?
 
It’s back on the market.
Owner now says engine overheated, hasn’t been started since.
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91 S4, auto, sunroof, A/C not working, new steering rack.
So, I looked at this car back in August and passed on it. The owner wanted $12K, looked at pictures and descriptions and countered at $11K, subject to drive.
The ride was very stiff, old twist knuckles spacers in the rear coils and the car still sat low. The paint and dash were very nice, seats and the rest of the interior just OK. Cold oil pressure was good, but once warmed up, the oil pressure dropped to almost nothing at idle. Thrust bearings?
I just got a text from the owner (not a Porsche guy) wondering if I had found a different car and stating he was open to any offer, needed to make room in his garage. He had bought a Hellcat prior to placing the 928 up for sale in August.
The other interesting thing, salvage title. The car was stolen in California shortly after initial sale in 92 or 93 and car fax confirmed the title issue from back then.
What is this thing really worth and is anyone interested? I bought a really nice 80 and am getting my 83 Euro ready for sale, so I don’t have a strong interest in buying this, but I’m curious as to value.

Kongmiami 01-13-2019 08:24 PM

Was really interesting till I read salvage title. $12k is probably what it’s worth

SwayBar 01-13-2019 09:35 PM

How many miles?

Mrmerlin 01-13-2019 10:28 PM

the low oil pressure is probably one of the block off pins in the cam journal has fallen out,
dont keep driving it like this as damage to the mains and rods will occur

SteveG 01-14-2019 12:22 PM

The pics don't match the actual car. Or do they? Please explain: you say it is automatic. In the first pic, the rear bumper shows "928 GT." When it was salvaged and I assume repaired they put a GT badged bumper on it? The alignment of the GT looks a little off so I'm thinking that is not original? Some teenager playing with letters? :)

Billu 01-14-2019 12:50 PM

OK, in order...
I don’t think the car, as it sits, is worth anywhere around $12K.
The owner obviously doesn’t either, as he texted me looking for “any offer”.
Mileage, about 80K.
The oil pressure seems to have been an issue for a while, as the current owner had the car serviced for “oil pressure readings”. The shop, supposedly an independent that has 928 experience, replaced the sender.
Pictures are of the car. Yes, the GT badge is incorrect. It is an automatic.
Anyone have an opinion on value, assuming the engine is bad?

Speedtoys 01-14-2019 01:03 PM

$5k, could use bits from a wrecked donor...it is pretty...

But..it needs a lot of work..its off the bottom of the Haggarty scale.

docmirror 01-14-2019 01:11 PM

Whoa, assuming the engine is bad is a very far leap from what's been posted so far. It might be as simple as someone putting modern 5-20 oil in it. Or, the cam plug, or worn oil pump gears. If the int is similar to the ext, that's a lot of cost avoided. I'm not going to offer a number until we KNOW the engine situation. Metal in the filter? Correct oil? Cam plugs all fitted? Flex plate relief with new clamp? I mean, if the guy just wants it out of there I'll toss $5k at it right now.

928S MN 01-14-2019 01:15 PM

As far as I'm concerned there isn't a Twin Cities shop, independent or Dealer, that I would let near my 928 Engine! I verified this with a retired factory trained 928 Mechanic.
Suspension is a different story.
Wondering what Independent looked at this car?

Billu 01-14-2019 01:19 PM

I don’t know the engine is bad, but I don’t know that it’s good.
Local work was done by “Auto Edge”.
I have a copy of the work order and bill.
The interior is mostly decent, but the front seats have been coated with something to fill cracks that looks like crap.
Seller seems motivated.
I’m not interested right now.
If someone is, pm me and I’ll provide contact info.

928S MN 01-14-2019 01:39 PM

Auto Edge does good work on 911's and 924/944's.
928 engine work, no way.

Billu 01-14-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by 928S MN (Post 15565152)
Auto Edge does good work on 911's and 924/944's.
928 engine work, no way.

We’re not talking an engine rebuild, just manual check of oil pressure and replacing a sender.
Shouldn’t be rocket science.

928S MN 01-14-2019 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Billu (Post 15565229)

We’re not talking an engine rebuild, just manual check of oil pressure and replacing a sender.
Shouldn’t be rocket science.

Hence my comment about Auto Edge being capable of working on and diagnosing 928 problems. Oil pressure problem is still there!

Billu 01-15-2019 11:12 AM

Just got a text offering the car for $8750.
Anyone want the info?

Harvey928 01-15-2019 12:12 PM

Still way too much for the unknowns. Someone had a very nice 87 in Sioux Falls SD with no known issues for about that same amount.


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