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Old 12-24-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GOTA944
I'm pleasantly surprised at the the level of support for the Mustang on a Porsche forum.
Well, that is the difference between true car-guys who appreciate other fine automobiles, versus the singular, blind zealots.
Old 12-24-2018, 11:24 AM
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With the Stang and the 928, you pretty much have every cars and coffee covered. The Delorean is a novelty. It is an interesting piece of automotive history but unless you’re going to charge money for people to come by and look at it, it just takes up space and you have some maintenance there. Also- an early 928 would make an interesting bookend to the mustang in the muscle car segment.
Old 12-25-2018, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GOTA944
There is a white 1969 Mach 1 eBay right now with a Buy It Now of 32.5K, which is a great deal if the car is as clean as it appears. I will start looking into lift solutions. I'm pleasantly surprised at the the level of support for the Mustang on a Porsche forum.
Very close to what I want - thanks.
Old 12-25-2018, 11:53 AM
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Good company! I too have a Mustang - 65 Fastback in Wimbledon White, V8 C Code car w factory A/C and red interior. Any MOPAR owners in here too? If so, again, good company - 69 Satellite w 5.7, 70 Challenger, 70 300!
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Dont you dare sell that mustang, its beautiful. The DeLorean is a cool car but its no driver. They are novelty cars,albeit, yours is one of the nicest i have ever seen. With the mustang and the 928, you would be much happier (if your a driver and not just a collector).
Old 12-27-2018, 04:23 PM
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Fun Toys! Love the stang... 69-70 Boss 302's in yellow are one of my favorite cars of all time.

The lift is a good solution, but if it had to be a choice, I'd be letting the DeLorean go...

Given the price differentials in 928's and their relative chances of appreciating, It is pretty clear the the 85-86.5's and early S4's are the biggest bang for the buck (right now) and that the earliest (78-79's) and latest cars (GT's and GTS's) are the fastest appreciating.

Enjoy your toy's!
Old 12-27-2018, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by axidjw
Dont you dare sell that mustang, its beautiful. The DeLorean is a cool car but its no driver. They are novelty cars,albeit, yours is one of the nicest i have ever seen. With the mustang and the 928, you would be much happier (if your a driver and not just a collector).
Thank you! I bought it as you see it in 2015 from Traverse City, MI only to learn it had been 20 min. from my house in IL from 1989-2014. Though my Mach 1 is just a 351 2 barrel car (base motor for Mach 1 trim, 4 barrel was optional, as was a 428 big block), it is a nice cruiser and still quicker than the DeLorean. My Mach 1 was built the very last week of 1970 production prior to the switch to the larger 1971 body style. Thus, it has the 351 Cleveland instead of the 351 Windsor.

With respect to the DeLorean, it is definitely one of the nicer ones out there. I took it to the DeLorean Convention and Car Show this year, and it won Best in Class in the 25K-50K mileage range. I'm not sure how many cars were in that class, but the show had about 60 cars in it. Though there are much better performance cars for the money, I do enjoy driving that around too because it seems to make people genuinely happy when they see it.

But... I still have a soft spot for 928s.
Old 12-28-2018, 10:56 PM
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Keep the DeLorean. I agree with others 60s cars are falling due to owners aging out. 70s are right behind. 80s cars on up. Dont wait too long for the 928 or that window will close too.
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DeLoreans are gorgeous cars, pretty even without the outrageous doors. They may not be fast, but compared to modern cars, nothing from that time period is as fast as sports cars of today. I bet a DeLorean could be made zippy and fun without sacrificing originality (ie, putting in Toyota V6 would probably be sacrilege, but compression and cams should be ok?), and you would have style and a modicum of performance. My Fiat 850 Sedan is not fast, but it is adorable and fun, and that means a lot. Try, try to keep them both and still pursue your 928 dream... Both that Boss and that DeLorean will be hard to replace if you change your mind in 3 years.
Old 12-31-2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fiatrn
DeLoreans are gorgeous cars, pretty even without the outrageous doors. They may not be fast, but compared to modern cars, nothing from that time period is as fast as sports cars of today. I bet a DeLorean could be made zippy and fun without sacrificing originality (ie, putting in Toyota V6 would probably be sacrilege, but compression and cams should be ok?), and you would have style and a modicum of performance. My Fiat 850 Sedan is not fast, but it is adorable and fun, and that means a lot. Try, try to keep them both and still pursue your 928 dream... Both that Boss and that DeLorean will be hard to replace if you change your mind in 3 years.
You guys are killing me haha. Looks like I'll eventually add a 928 to the fleet. I just need to find more room, but I fear I may miss the 928 boat, though prices seem to have stabilized a bit from the surge the last few years. With respect to the DeLorean, a popular swap is a LS1, but you really need to know what you're doing, and some are better done than others. And yes, someone has put a Toyota motor into a DeLorean but not a V6. There is a guy who installed a 2JZ Toyota Supra turbo straight six in his, and it is awesome. There have been discussions in the DeLorean community with putting a 928 V8 in one but nothing has materialized that I know of. The reason why this came up I suspect is because Back to the Future used a 928 V8 sound dubbed in for the time machine. If I were to do any upgrades, it would probably be Delorean Motor Company's Stage 1 stainless exhaust system with headers, which brings the horsepower up to around 150 from 130. In other words, where the horsepower was supposed to be before US emissions. They also offer a Stage II upgrade which includes the Stage I exhaust but adds cam and head work to bring horsepower up to 197 hp on premium fuel. Stage 1 kit is around $2,100, but after powder coating, install, tax, it's about 3K. Stage 2 is 7K. Fairly pricey IMO. Resale, you get about 50% back on these upgrades if you sell down the line. I'm leaning towards doing Stage 1 eventually because like my Eibach suspension, it gets the car where it was originally intended to be. The Mustang also needs some exhaust work this year, and I'm debating what to put on that thing. It is stock right now, and I think I'm keeping it that way.
Old 12-31-2018, 07:57 PM
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here is my pair

PM me if you have DeLorean questions

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Originally Posted by GOTA944
I have posted on here off and on the last few years. The 928 has been a fleeting dream of mine for the past 15 years or so when I first wet my Porsche appetite with a 1985.5 944. Since that time, I've owned a handful of what I'd consider fun cars: Fiero GT, Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo, Mustang GT, Challenger R/T and SRT... However, every time I think to buy another 'toy", the 928 pops into my head. In 2015, I test drove a 1989 S4 that I wrote a thread about but passed on given the helpful advice I received on this forum. I still think about that car, and the impression it left on me. Never before have I been in a car that felt as well sorted and put together. Such a wonderful grand tourer. However, shortly after passing on that car, I purchased a 1970 Mustang Mach 1 since it was something my wife and I could both agree on and still have that car today. In July, I acquired a pristine 25K original mile 1981 DeLorean DMC-12 originally from California. Now that I have that 80s icon, I've started looking at others and once again the 928. However, I only have room for two old cars, so either the DeLorean or Mustang would have to go. The Mustang's values have been flat for a few years, while the DeLorean and 928 have climbed a lot. Thank you, Generation X! I am seriously considering parting with my Mustang to get a 928 but am still not sure which era. I used to be dead set on the S4 but have recently been looking at the 1985-1986S because they look more aggressive to me. I also like that the intakes don't flake quite like the S4s haha. I was told by Volo Auto Museum this past summer, they'd put my Mustang up for 35K on consignment and keep whatever they sell it for above that or cut me a 30K check outright if I did not want to wait. I do know I could score a hell of a 928 in that price range or more likely less money. Thoughts?




Here are some pictures of the current cars:
I have given your "either the DeLorean or the Mustang would have to go" statement some more thought and to me it is the DeLorean that would have to go. Its cool..... but not worth kicking the Stang or 928 out of the garage for.

It is also rumored that DeLoreans are developing problems with the body to frame adhesive. Very cool car but if the body of a car becomes loose from the frame? That's a bad day!

Granprixweiss928 You have a beautiful DeLorean and are clearly knowledgable. If this adhesive problem is not true - Please correct me... Thx
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Originally Posted by 928 GT R

It is also rumored that DeLoreans are developing problems with the body to frame adhesive. Very cool car but if the body of a car becomes loose from the frame? That's a bad day!

Granprixweiss928 You have a beautiful DeLorean and are clearly knowledgable. If this adhesive problem is not true - Please correct me... Thx
incorrect...but you are not far off.

The Delorean is a 3 part car....Frame, Underbody, and exterior panels.

The frame is held to the underbody with 8 big bolts. There is no adhesive used and there are no issues here. Frames to have issues from rust when the epoxy coating gets damaged and moisture gets in.

The underbody is a fiberglass composite, and everything else attaches to that- the glass, to stainless panels (bolt on/off for easy replacement was the idea) the interior, and the DOORS. The doors are heavy and the mechanism that helps open them is a gas strut and a special torsion bar. the narrow roof panel supports the doors and the stress applied by the bar. the roof panel is a pressed steel box, that is glued to the fiberglass below it...the fiberglass itself is not strong enough. Its this adhesive that has been failing more commonly (its 40 years old and under lots of structural stress so no surprise). The effects of this cause door alignment issues. As the rear of the panel lifts up, the doors (when looking from the driver side of the car) rotate counter clockwise, causing the front to drop, the rear to go up. The steel roof box also can rust and fail. Repair is possible- and now new stainless roof panel sections are available in the aftermarket in stainless, but the procedure is very involved.

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If one has to go, I would get rid of the Delorean. It is, and always will be a poser car. You'll get good money for that because of the condition. Invest in whatever 928 fits your desire. I would go for a 88 5sp, or a GT but the early cars are also becoming well noticed.
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"Poser" is pretty harsh @docmirror but I know what you mean. Of those three cars, certainly the DeLorean is going to be the loser by almost any measurement. However, that's more a tribute to the other two than a knock on the DeLorean. They were so new and so great looking that the reality of crummy cars, poor performance, and production by an accused (but acquitted) drug dealer never really killed their coolness. I mean, stainless steel bodies, and those spaceship doors. And, thanks to "Back to the Future" I suspect they'll be famous long after the other two. I bet @granprixweiss928 gets more attention for the DMC than the 928.

Too bad there isn't a version of this car that had a modern performance drivetrain/suspension, fixes to the known quality problems of the original, and was supported by a vendor. (Yet?)

https://www.newdelorean.com

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