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Old 12-12-2018, 08:59 AM
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Rear passenger sun visors?
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards View Post
TPMS / RDK
According to Wikipedia the 959 in 1986 was the first to incorporate it. What MY 928 used the system? 1990?
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Old 12-12-2018, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NoVector View Post
"928 Firsts" thread from 8 years ago: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-firsts-3.html
Ahh! And I actually searched for "928 Firsts" before I posted this thread I didn't find that one. Well everything old is new again as they say.

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Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen another car with a gas-cap bib.
I think I've seen this before but the car is not coming to mind right now. Something my uncle once owned. I'l have to ask him.
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Old 12-12-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD View Post
PSD?
I came across this on wikipedia again.

"The predecessor of modern electronic traction control systems can be found in high-torque, high-power rear-wheel drive cars as a limited slip differential. A limited slip differential is a purely mechanical system that transfers a relatively small amount of power to the non-slipping wheel, while still allowing some wheel spin to occur.

In 1971, Buick introduced MaxTrac, which used an early computer system to detect rear wheel spin and modulate engine power to those wheels to provide the most traction.[1] A Buick exclusive item at the time, it was an option on all full-size models, including the Riviera, Estate Wagon, Electra 225, Centurion, and LeSabre.


Cadillac introduced the Traction Monitoring System (TMS) in 1979 on the redesigned Eldorado."

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Power cut off is not what is used in PSD, so I would not compare the two. MaxTrac is like what I have my Sequoia's traction control and all others today. When I break lose pulling into traffic from the side and the SUV shuts down and is almost dangerous in it's slow response. I much prefer the feeling of the car starting to pull to the right and straighten back up as acceleration increases.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:27 PM
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My '69 Karmann Ghia has a factory gas bib.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:08 AM
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So did '70s Datsun Z cars.

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Old 12-13-2018, 08:17 AM
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Probably the first....and only...4 bar link hatch unlatching actuator.
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:01 AM
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How about the camshaft housing? Any other car have the camshaft fully enclosed like that? I'd like to go back in time and bitch slap whomever thought cam covers and caps were no longer adequate

I'm guessing it made the head a much more simple casting or something.
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Hacker, Pontiac had an enclosed cam housing that bolted to the cylinder head of its OHC 230cid 6 cylinder in 1966.


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Originally Posted by skpyle View Post
Hacker, Pontiac had an enclosed cam housing that bolted to the cylinder head of its OHC 230cid 6 cylinder in 1966.
Wow, between that and the Tempest having a rear mounted transaxle.......what else did Porsche borrow from Pontiac?
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:25 PM
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First two letters of the name?
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:37 PM
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The Tempest had the rear-mounted transaxle, and it had a very interesting torque-tube design that kept the inner drive shaft slightly bent at all times. GM was having issues with harmonics, solved by bending the shaft among "mis-aligned" support bearings in the tube. Porsche was willing to ignore the vibrations but ended up with different bearing spacing and the torque-tube damper as they tried to kill the resonances. It should be noted that the torque-tube design dates back to at least the 1940's in American cars. Good way to eliminate axle torque windup, but it forced the engine to move in concert with the rear suspension. Open driveshafts come into play only after the frames were stiffened a bit, and bodies were isolated from the frames with elastic mounts.
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