Got Sludge - Horror
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Got Sludge - Horror
Getting a car ready to sell and needed to pull the engine to replace the head gaskets. I presume some of what is on the oil pickup is head gasket material.
When I pulled the oil pan I saw more sludge than I have ever seen.
Previously owned by a lawyer that prided himself of his collection of vintage motorcycles and a well equipped machine shop. When I pulled the rack to get to the motor mounts one side - bolt and washer were missing and one of the lower bell housing bolts was missing as well. I think he did not drive the 928 much except to go to his summer house on the lake.
Gadzooks! It's as deep as the fins!
There's a ring around the oil pickup!
It's abut a 1/4" deep
Inside the oil pickup.
When I pulled the oil pan I saw more sludge than I have ever seen.
Previously owned by a lawyer that prided himself of his collection of vintage motorcycles and a well equipped machine shop. When I pulled the rack to get to the motor mounts one side - bolt and washer were missing and one of the lower bell housing bolts was missing as well. I think he did not drive the 928 much except to go to his summer house on the lake.
Gadzooks! It's as deep as the fins!
There's a ring around the oil pickup!
It's abut a 1/4" deep
Inside the oil pickup.
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'87 or '88?
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Thought mine was bad. Looks like he saved about 30 years worth of oil changes. Was there a proper oil level on the stick?
Worst than my nuts that were stuck in the alternator.
Worst than my nuts that were stuck in the alternator.
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Like Porsche has always done, they tried to be very subtle and get around "the problem" in tech bulletin #8821 (Book E, Page 83.)
"The problem" was so extensive, they finally had to "come clean" in tech bulletin #8902 (Book F, Page 25.) and tell everyone why the change was made and why people had/were going to have crazy amounts of sludge in their oil pans.
Of course, no recall or warranty....."the problem" only showed up in "long term testing".....way past any warranty period.
If you are planning on doing 928 repairs for very long, you simply can't buy and "sit on" enough '89 and later heads.
We're going to see hundreds of these failures, in the next 5-10 years.
"The problem" was so extensive, they finally had to "come clean" in tech bulletin #8902 (Book F, Page 25.) and tell everyone why the change was made and why people had/were going to have crazy amounts of sludge in their oil pans.
Of course, no recall or warranty....."the problem" only showed up in "long term testing".....way past any warranty period.
If you are planning on doing 928 repairs for very long, you simply can't buy and "sit on" enough '89 and later heads.
We're going to see hundreds of these failures, in the next 5-10 years.
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Have fun with your 928's people!
greg brown
714 879 9072
GregBBRD@aol.com
Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
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Like Porsche has always done, they tried to be very subtle and get around "the problem" in tech bulletin #8821 (Book E, Page 83.)
"The problem" was so extensive, they finally had to "come clean" in tech bulletin #8902 (Book F, Page 25.) and tell everyone why the change was made and why people had/were going to have crazy amounts of sludge in their oil pans.
Of course, no recall or warranty....."the problem" only showed up in "long term testing".....way past any warranty period.
If you are planning on doing 928 repairs for very long, you simply can't buy and "sit on" enough '89 and later heads.
We're going to see hundreds of these failures, in the next 5-10 years.
"The problem" was so extensive, they finally had to "come clean" in tech bulletin #8902 (Book F, Page 25.) and tell everyone why the change was made and why people had/were going to have crazy amounts of sludge in their oil pans.
Of course, no recall or warranty....."the problem" only showed up in "long term testing".....way past any warranty period.
If you are planning on doing 928 repairs for very long, you simply can't buy and "sit on" enough '89 and later heads.
We're going to see hundreds of these failures, in the next 5-10 years.
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I'm assuming that your sludge is from a small amount of water leaking into the oil, for a long time, since your description of the owner did not seem like a person that would not change the oil...
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Greg, do you have pics of the cracked head bosses from that 1R S4 motor you had maybe 2 months back? I took a few pics but they were before the bolts came out.
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Here;s a couple of pictures of the valve train from the same engine. The cam lobes are perfect.