Looking For Locking Gas Cap
10-15-2018, 12:09 PM
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Thanks Randy. By the way, I have sent a separating Device to Mark A. to use at his discretion but also to be available for anyone around there to come to his place to use on their own gas cap. He will not be sending it around in any fashion, however. I have also provided him with some Pawls to incorporate in any program of gas cap repair that he might come up with, and maybe even including re-keying the caps, since he also makes new keys. I am sure the Device will be available to you and anyone else at SF 18.
I am also sending a Device to Rob E. today and he should have it by this weekend, and I am hoping he might also take it to SF 18 to use, demonstrate, and loan in place for others to use. They will have to buy a Pawl from Mark A. However, for you, Randy, I am asking Rob to deliver to you a Pawl that I am including in his package with the Device, if you are going to be in need of it and if you have a cap to develop for your advertised needs.
I am also sending a Device to Rob E. today and he should have it by this weekend, and I am hoping he might also take it to SF 18 to use, demonstrate, and loan in place for others to use. They will have to buy a Pawl from Mark A. However, for you, Randy, I am asking Rob to deliver to you a Pawl that I am including in his package with the Device, if you are going to be in need of it and if you have a cap to develop for your advertised needs.
10-15-2018, 06:55 PM
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I put the repaired Cap in the mail about noon today. It should be there Thursday. I included the broken pawl in the package so you can see what the common failure looks like.
10-15-2018, 11:20 PM
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10-16-2018, 12:11 PM
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From the picture, Mark, it looks like many or most of your caps are the early type with the short center which have the one tooth pawl which I have not replicated. I am wondering now just what the benefit might be for me to make some replacements for the early pawl.
If you and/or Rob E. set up anything this weekend to try to repair various caps I would strongly urge that you do it only on the caps with the long center. It will do no good to take the short ones apart, except for re-keying them if that is the issue, and you want to get into that.
If you and/or Rob E. set up anything this weekend to try to repair various caps I would strongly urge that you do it only on the caps with the long center. It will do no good to take the short ones apart, except for re-keying them if that is the issue, and you want to get into that.
10-16-2018, 08:13 PM
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From the picture, Mark, it looks like many or most of your caps are the early type with the short center which have the one tooth pawl which I have not replicated. I am wondering now just what the benefit might be for me to make some replacements for the early pawl.
If you and/or Rob E. set up anything this weekend to try to repair various caps I would strongly urge that you do it only on the caps with the long center. It will do no good to take the short ones apart, except for re-keying them if that is the issue, and you want to get into that.
If you and/or Rob E. set up anything this weekend to try to repair various caps I would strongly urge that you do it only on the caps with the long center. It will do no good to take the short ones apart, except for re-keying them if that is the issue, and you want to get into that.
10-17-2018, 12:31 AM
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10-17-2018, 12:07 PM
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Thanks again, Randy. I will caution, as with the post the Mark A. about the difference between the early and late caps, that many do not notice the difference from the outside. If you have received a replacement from GB or the other guy I want you to be sure it is the later version, because my replacement Pawl will not work in the early caps. It is difficult to tell from the outside which version you might have, and particularly from pictures of a cap. The only apparent difference is the length of the central shaft which houses the lock and the Pawl. The later cap has a central shaft that extends about 3/16 inch farther than the rim of the white part while the early version has a central shaft that is just about even with the rim; or it is actually recessed a bit.
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10-17-2018, 11:09 PM
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Ok, good to know!
I think I had sent you pics before showing that mine had the protruding central shaft.
That's what she said!
I think I had sent you pics before showing that mine had the protruding central shaft.
That's what she said!
Thanks again, Randy. I will caution, as with the post the Mark A. about the difference between the early and late caps, that many do not notice the difference from the outside. If you have received a replacement from GB or the other guy I want you to be sure it is the later version, because my replacement Pawl will not work in the early caps. It is difficult to tell from the outside which version you might have, and particularly from pictures of a cap. The only apparent difference is the length of the central shaft which houses the lock and the Pawl. The later cap has a central shaft that extends about 3/16 inch farther than the rim of the white part while the early version has a central shaft that is just about even with the rim.
10-18-2018, 12:32 AM
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Jerry, can I send my cap to you for repair? Last time I took my '81 (is that early or late?) in for a smog check, the tech broke my pawl. Now the cap does not lock and does not snug down tight.
Do you need my key too? And what are the payment details? Thanks...
Do you need my key too? And what are the payment details? Thanks...
10-18-2018, 12:57 AM
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I will open the handful of early caps that I have and maybe one of them will have a good pawl. Mark A just opened several early caps and all of them had a broken pawl. Then, since yours will not ratchet correctly to install something else may be wrong. I may still be able to fix it if I have the early pawl. Tomorrow I'll open my early caps to see what I have.
Last edited by Jerry Feather; 10-18-2018 at 01:14 AM.
10-18-2018, 11:50 AM
#43
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Jeff, I have an intact pawl from an early cap, so if you send me your cap I can probably fix it. If it is only the pawl the charge will be $45 shipped. If something else is involved it will be a bit more. Just send the cap and key and I'll let you know what I can do. My name and address are in my avatar.
10-18-2018, 06:32 PM
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Got my cap back from Jerry. Thanks man, works like a charm. One more tiny step towards 928 perfection.
BTW, is the normal mode of failure like mine, top of cap locked up to the center portion so it can be removed, or does it also fail the other way, the top just spins around and can't be opened? Might need to be prepared for that day in the distant future when it fails again.
BTW, is the normal mode of failure like mine, top of cap locked up to the center portion so it can be removed, or does it also fail the other way, the top just spins around and can't be opened? Might need to be prepared for that day in the distant future when it fails again.