Chris Lockhart

Seth, I agree that it's frustrating that almost no one recognizes the '89 GT as a "model". Somewhere around here, I have my original window sticker showing the "GT Package" as being one of the (no cost!!!!) "options". It shows the 326 HP engine, suspension, wheels, and something else (memory going south) as part of the GT "option package".

If I go get an appraisal for insurance purposes, nobody recognizes the '89 GT, especially the insurance company. It's "just an S4 5 speed" to them. (Not meant as a put down on S4's mind you)

MBMB

The broker tossed in a service information booklet, # WKD 495.921, yesterday when I bought my '89 GT. Published in April 1989, it says:

"The eight cylinder engine model range is supplemented with another model version, the 928 GT, in 1989.

"The 928 GT is a special series production model and features a high power output engine (243 kW /326 SAE HP net) and a high level of standard equipment."

It then has a dyno chart, and sections describing the changes from S4 on all aspects of the GT.

Gregg K

Hey MB,
That's very cool. One of the first things I did when I got my car was to look at the dyno chart. They didn't have one. Just the S4. Can you post a picture of the book or the dyno graph, or sumpthing?
Thanks

Seth W

gregg:

At devek days this past year they had 2 such brochures for sale, I bought them both. You might try calling and seeing if they have any more in stock since then.

heinrich

Sounds as if the US sales force elected to call it "GT Option Package". Clearly it was not strapped-onto an S4 ... so that would be a misnomer. It's not an option package. I own an S4 5spd, and I know the GT was a different animal. One year, there were S4auto; S45spd; and GT. This to me means that GT is a separate model in and of itself, distinguishable from S45spd.

MBMB

When I get back to Houston I'll scan it.

MBMB

No scan yet (delaying my departure from Long Island till tomorrow), but here are photos of the cover and the engine load curves:

martini928

Hi guys!

Well I am the owner of 89GT in Europe, luckily bought it back 3 years and last month finaly got it driving. Its a long story as I bought it with engine in a box.

GT is NOT an S4 - becouse there were S4 with manual transmission those were not designated as GT. But about the production numbers - I was told on a purchase that there was only 970 something GT produced (Really I am not sure on exact number) in 1989. Anyway number was under 1000 definetly! This number I have heard elsewere afterwards, so it seems to be true.

After all it really is a rare version of a 928. And we (owners) should be very happy own them - like I am :-)

UKKid35

Hi Martins

Congratulations on getting your car going at last! I remember you had problems identifying some of the hoses and vacuum lines. Do you have any pictures or details on your reassembly? Did you find out why the engine had been pulled originally?

martini928

Vacuum lines now are sorted out, but the pictures is something I dont have as the service location was not easeast to reach. Engine failure had something to do with sudden oil loss. Car went to OPC for repair, but when a final costs emerged owner sold car. So this is how I got it. The crank was something like overheated - but nothing else bad emerged. Got crank replaced as well as service as the service guy had done some additional demage to crank - and then it was long long waiting for parts and works, parts and works.....

Now I am at pretty stupid situation as tensioner roller appears to be bad - will have to replace 7pound part with a 70pound labor cost :-) Why to hell me nor service guy sow the roller before - > See attached.


Actually there are some more problems with radiator cooling. On this picture you can see the air conditioner line (passenger side), which when radiator is in place, go into the way of ventilator blades. Dont know the solution yet as there seems to be problems with cooling brain (near passenger seat). Will see how it goes but March 1. is a deadline for me to start finaly drive my GT!

Car without the engine:

Vilhuer

There might be logical explanation for this 1989 GT model or not debate. I think GT came middle of model year some time very late '88 or early '89. Usually model year changes already in August. So almost half of all '89 cars were actually build in previous year. None or only very few late ones were GT's. Porsche probably did not know they were going to make GT when they printed '89 owners manual and brochure already August or thereabouts in '88. They were still building '89 model Club Sports back then I think. That's also reason for separate GT brochure printed at least in German and English versions. This way they could use all those S4 stuff and didn't have to spend too much on new brochures. In later years both models could be put in same printing. I wouldn't put too much weight on Anderson's market reports in Excellence magazine. Just look what he states as GTS production numbers in December 2003 issue. Someone with Excellence Was Expected book, please post all production numbers in there, not just '89 GT's.

Regards,

Erkka

1992 928 GTS 5-speed, one of many more than 192
Oak Green Metallic 22L
Classic Gray MX

low miler

I have personally owned two of the '89 GT's. One was a black on black with full beltline leather and window posts with 26,000 miles. I purchased that one in Las Vegas and sold it to a gentleman by the name of Adrian Hurley who lives in Los Angeles. The other was a black on champagne with black piping and black carpet with 36,000 miles I purchased in Fort Lauderdale from an Estate sale. I sold that one to a gentleman in Chicago (though I saw it for sale by a dealer in Chicago last month on Ebay with forty something thousand miles on it now). I used to always call PCNA (about 4-5 years ago) and give them the VIN # and they would give me the options (they used to give you the actual options, now they just give you the codes). Then they would always start by saying that the car was a 1989 928 S4 and then during their list of options they would verify it was a GT by saying it has "GT Indicators" (I specifically remember them using that term), as one of the options. At that time it was the only way I could truly verify it was an actual GT. '89's never really got the recognition they deserved until the last few years. I remember one guy backed out on buying one of the cars from me because his bank told him that there wasn't a GT until '90. In fact, Kelly Blue Book, Edmunds etc.. still don't list a GT until '90. So he thought I was lying......to bad for him. I always, for many reasons, considered the '89 GT as the best of the GT breed. In an interesting sidenote, both cars were only advertised as S4's when I purchased them. The one in Florida I got pics of ahead of time so I had a pretty good idea on that one(though I never informed the seller of that), the other in Las Vegas was advertised in Hemmings as just an S4 also. I went out from Indianapolis, sight unseen, to be pleasantly surprised that it was a real GT also. In fact, the Nevada title actually said 928 GT on it. I just think he never knew any different, I never told him any different either. Just an FYI, all first half of '89 production year 5 speeds were just S4's. The second half 5 speeds were all GT's. That probably explains the lack of there being a '89 GT owners manual. Anyway, all of you '89 GT owners will get the respect you deserve in $$$$$ value in the end!

sweanders

Come on guys, the GT was available as a separate model in Europe in 1989 and if anyone doubts they can easily check the engine code. You just have to lift the hood and read it..

low miler

I couldn't agree more!