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Old 01-17-2018, 11:39 PM
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vanster
... Big question....all the testing and reports I see are for cops sitting on the side or in the median strip under bridge. What about when they are coming the opposite direction. If I'm doing 90mph and the cop is doing 70 or 80 plus on the on coming direction...how does a detector calculate this.
No problem at all, for him. The radars are Doppler, and measure how fast things things are moving towards (or away from) the unit. If the cop car is moving then the biggest return will be the terrain moving towards the radar unit at the cop's vehicle speed, so now the box knows how fast it is moving. Then it looks up and down this Doppler band to find other targets moving towards or away, and calculates the speed difference. There's two modes for handling multiple targets in traffic: largest (good for picking out trucks), and fastest (biggest revenue-generator). So if the cop is heading north at 70 then the box reads that, and (just hypothetically, as an illustration) you are heading south at 90, the box reads a Doppler speed of 160. That, minus the cop speed, is 90. The radar unit lights up red and beeps wildly with a hungry intensity.

Then the questions are (a) where was the last place where the cop could reasonable negotiate a u-turn, (b) can he keep you in sight (an annoying technical requirement), and (c) where's the nearest drive-through espresso. A stop for coffee is always good.

Originally Posted by vanster
What I see is a bunch of suction cup units with wires going to the cig lighter...busted!
Wired in (from below the dash on the pass side) with a longish cord. This is where a navigator helps: Detector winds up on the floor (black floor mats) under the navigator's feet (powered off so that the damn thing doesn't sit down there beeping), Google maps replaces WAZE, and driver and navigator sit there relaxed and smiling. "Why no, officer, I actually don't know how fast I was going. I was watching traffic and had my eyes on the road".

Airplanes... Ask Sue about that some time.
Old 01-18-2018, 01:56 AM
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Never say that you don' know how fast you were going. It allows the officer to insert his own number knowing yiu have no basis for argument.

My ultimate defense in the past has been that I have radar endorsement on my FCC commercisl license. There was one person there actually qualified to calibrate the unit. I'm about one in three on that when the officer lies and states that "he clocked me at nnnMPG". ...From the opposite direction. There's no defense against that. Best to avoid the contact if possible.
Old 01-18-2018, 04:09 AM
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Always state you were going the speed limit and play innocent.

Also, in California for the cops to clock you with a plane they need to have a cruiser on the ground verify your speed.

If you slow down to the speed limit when you eventually pass the cop, they can't do squat.

Also, always argue your case in court. Statistically 70% of the time in CA they do not show up for minor speeding offences.
Old 01-18-2018, 12:08 PM
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Been a V-1 user for many years. They work. I use it everyday around town, and add the "WAZE" app while on the interstate or on long trips. Great combination! Easy to switch between cars as well.

Get a V-1 unit with latest "junk-fighter" update and you are good to go.
Old 01-18-2018, 02:13 PM
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I have used over the years, owning since 1988, Passport, Solo, V1 (one of the first in 92), and Redline. The Redline is hands-down, the king.

Selling BOTH V1s, they are nowhere as good with range as Redline. Forget the arrows, it would not make me hit the brakes any quicker, which is what matters.


Redline with Waze is good, but not perfect.
Old 01-18-2018, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorenman
...and driver and navigator sit there relaxed and smiling. "Why no, officer, I actually don't know how fast I was going. I was watching traffic and had my eyes on the road".

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Rule #1
Always KNOW the speed limit on the road you are traveling, period.

Rule #2
If you don't know the speed limit, drive slower than usual, until you figure it out.

You will be asked if you know the speed limit on the road, and what speed you were traveling. If you absolutely do not know the speed limit and are in a situation where you are asked, you can reply (if compelled), saying that you were "going the speed limit". It's not your job to incriminate yourself.

All roads must present a speed limit in a uniform manner. They also must state the speed limit for those who turn onto a road - and if not, it's cause for a case to be dismissed.

And if you ever get pulled over and your passenger feels compelled to speak, remind them of the long walk home, or wherever.
Old 01-19-2018, 09:42 AM
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They do work and my favorite is the V1 for situational awareness, but your situational awareness and smooth driving technique is more important when in the rapido mode to insure not getting pulled over in the first place!!!

In addition to all the comments above is a common sense technique that has served me well for traffic stops.

Be courteous and aware of your (potentially) arresting officers safety! This guy or gal is doing a job, they have a family and friends just like you, BE NICE!!

1. Pull off the road 5 - 10 feet and turn your car a bit back toward the roadway to expose your driver door, turn it off and put your flashers on. (This creates a safety shadow for the officer so their cruiser protects them from passing traffic that is often uncomfortably close.)

2. Turn all interior lights ON immediately if it is at night, so the officer can see into your car.

3. Have your License and Insurance card prepared and in your fingertips and your hands up at 10 & 2 on the steering wheel so the officer can readily see them when he/she arrives at your door.

4. Have your passenger keep quiet, hands visible on their knees, and not moving.

5. Communicate clearly and respectfully! YES SIR - OFFICER NAME (on badge) to personalize and lower tension.

The rest is again situational and you have to take it from there as the variables in officers personalities, amount of speed involved and your interactions with them will determine if the officer even writes you.

Show clear respect from the beginning of the stop to the end...

Enjoy!

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Old 01-19-2018, 01:21 PM
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^^^^^^

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Old 01-19-2018, 08:19 PM
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I just drove down to Greg Browns shop yesterday and back today ( 840miles round trip) My Waze does a good job. I drove across the James Dean Highway at about 11:30 at night. Empty road as I was following a big back Suburban between 85 and 100mph until he almost brake check me and a half a mile ahead was that big Dodge Charger....My guess is that the Suburban had a radar unit as Waze didn't pick it up.
Little late for them to be working but he was out there...must be because 101 is shut down.
Old 01-20-2018, 08:34 AM
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My daily driver has a Escort Passport Max2 with Live (but I don't use Live much), heads up display in the windshield that shows my speed and the speed limit, and Waze alerts on audio. It works pretty well, but then again in Massachusetts they don't seem to normally pull over anyone going less than 20mph over the limit. Someone told me that the small ticket that you get from <20mph speeding isn't profitable for them anymore here, but the slightly bigger small ticket that you get from >20mph is still profitable.

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Old 01-20-2018, 12:18 PM
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The first weeked owned a Porsche I took a road trip. Not long after crossing into Tenn got pulled over by a State Patrol. My fuzzbuster went off AFTER we both stopped. This was when the speed limit was 55mph. He gave me a ticket for 57mph, the speed that traffic was passing us when we stopped. Said I could contest the radar ticket and it would be dropped, but I was an out of State traveler and it was highly unlikely I would make the court date so it was basically an Out of State driver's tax. He actually said that. Ignored speed limits in Tenn for the rest of my trip because felt already paid for the right to speed in Tenn.



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