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I never noticed any issues either, and it doesn't really grab on the roof edge trim at all. I did always make sure it was clean/waxed where the rubber pads sit on the roof, never left a mark.
FWIW, I used mine a lot and ran with a heavy load and/or with a lot of air drag.
Cheers,
Dave
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My apologies for the side track but I don't understand. Please name a few ways it's wrong.
It's a matter of opinion, but as someone who has driven in Wisconsin winters for 30+ years:
1 - A powerful, rear wheel drive car on slippery surfaces can be a handful. For a rear-engined car like a 911, it can be downright dangerous. Most drivers aren't capable of doing it safely.
2 - Even with the galvanizing on the metal, exposing a great car like a 928 to salt should be a criminal offense. My 928 has not been exposed to much salt in its life, so disassembling the 'underneath' stuff has been a joy. I've taken the front crossmember off to do the MMs & OPG, and not having to fight with rusted fasteners is a very pleasant experience.
3 - Even if you are willing to expose the car to salt, you are putting the car at risk of being hit by other idiots who have no clue that the white fluffy stuff on the ground makes it slippery. They think that ABS, traction control, stability control and all wheel drive make them exceptions to the rules of physics. You can be putting along at a reasonable and safe speed, being sensible and cautious, and get clobbered by an idiot who thinks that being in a hurry means that they can go the same speed they can go on clean and clear roads.
It's a matter of opinion, but as someone who has driven in Wisconsin winters for 30+ years:
1 - A powerful, rear wheel drive car on slippery surfaces can be a handful. For a rear-engined car like a 911, it can be downright dangerous. Most drivers aren't capable of doing it safely.
2 - Even with the galvanizing on the metal, exposing a great car like a 928 to salt should be a criminal offense. My 928 has not been exposed to much salt in its life, so disassembling the 'underneath' stuff has been a joy. I've taken the front crossmember off to do the MMs & OPG, and not having to fight with rusted fasteners is a very pleasant experience.
3 - Even if you are willing to expose the car to salt, you are putting the car at risk of being hit by other idiots who have no clue that the white fluffy stuff on the ground makes it slippery. They think that ABS, traction control, stability control and all wheel drive make them exceptions to the rules of physics. You can be putting along at a reasonable and safe speed, being sensible and cautious, and get clobbered by an idiot who thinks that being in a hurry means that they can go the same speed they can go on clean and clear roads.
As always, YMMV. Your car, your choice.
Hi Joe,
You may not be aware, but there are meds that will help you with anxiety and paranoia issues.... take one Xanax first thing in the morning. :-)
If that doesn't work you could try one of these....
Seriously I get it, there is nothing wrong with taking care of your car and proper seasonal cleaning will negate any of the issues you mention. But, if you can't use it as it was meant to be used, why bother.
FWIW, I used to put snow chains on my first 928 (84) to make it to the ski slopes, didn't have a rack then so the skis were inside. Didn't give it a thought to not do that. I know how to drive in snow and there are many, many more crazy drivers on the roads when the weather is good as compared to when it is bad. Usually in really bad weather I would be the only crazy person on the road, in my mind it was much safer that way, LOL
1. 911's are actually very capable in the snow, just like the beetle. All that weight over the rear wheels gives them absurd traction capabilities.
2. Agreed on the salt, if nothing corrosive were dropped down in winter I'd drive my cars year round
3. This is the risk 365 days a year...... yes the possibilities increase when it's slippery, if #2 were a reality the populous wouldn't be so reliant on expecting the roads to be clear & maybe, just maybe we'd all be better drivers. No I have not started drinking already today.
928's are great in the Texas snows. Especially great with summer tires Wife was not too happy though.
Great pic Sean! Brings back great memories of having fun with a 928 in the snow.
I guess in all fairness Texas and even the GA/NC Mountains don't have the season long road salt issues like our friends up north. Honestly I would imagine you have to live up there to really get it.
I wish I had the cash for this. I'd love to show up for Camp 928 with kayaks on the top of the Shark.
There are Thule feet that will fit the roof. It should be possible to design and machine some sort of adapter that will use the existing rack mounts in the hatch area.
1. 911's are actually very capable in the snow, just like the beetle. All that weight over the rear wheels gives them absurd traction capabilities.
2. Agreed on the salt, if nothing corrosive were dropped down in winter I'd drive my cars year round
3. This is the risk 365 days a year...... yes the possibilities increase when it's slippery, if #2 were a reality the populous wouldn't be so reliant on expecting the roads to be clear & maybe, just maybe we'd all be better drivers. No I have not started drinking already today.
1 - In the right hands, yes. They are very capable. In the hands of fools and idiots, the oversteer can kill (unsafe at any speed?).
2 - (replying more to Shawn) - I don't care how much or how often you clean it. I wash my work truck weekly or more. It's still rusted to hell & back underneath.
3 - Yes, it is a risk year round. I ride motorcycle and idiots try to kill me on a regular basis. I also drive truck over the road and see how bad they are (it's not 'paranoia' if it's true ).
However, slippery roads, especially early in the season, seems to bring out the 'inner idiot' in a lot of people.
It's kind of funny. Two weeks ago, we got a huge snowstorm. Something like 20 inches or more from Saturday morning through Sunday night. Roads were awful. I had to drive through it on Sunday, Not a lot of traffic, most of it going slow. Not too many people in the ditch.
Monday morning, the snow had stopped, plows had been out and the roads were fairly clear. Still snowy spots and lots of slippery sections. And a lot more cars in the ditch. Or upside down.
I wish I had the cash for this. I'd love to show up for Camp 928 with kayaks on the top of the Shark.
There are Thule feet that will fit the roof. It should be possible to design and machine some sort of adapter that will use the existing rack mounts in the hatch area.
Sounds like a Jerry project!
I want it too but can't think of anything around here I'd be able to mount on it. Water skis? Parts car bin (like those you see on minivans)? Spare 928 hood and fender?
1 - In the right hands, yes. They are very capable. In the hands of fools and idiots, the oversteer can kill (unsafe at any speed?).
It's kind of funny. Two weeks ago, we got a huge snowstorm. Something like 20 inches or more from Saturday morning through Sunday night. Roads were awful. I had to drive through it on Sunday, Not a lot of traffic, most of it going slow. Not too many people in the ditch.
Monday morning, the snow had stopped, plows had been out and the roads were fairly clear. Still snowy spots and lots of slippery sections. And a lot more cars in the ditch. Or upside down.
1. That's any car really. Morons on the road only get worse with bad conditions.
Cars like 911's cannot go up a 1 degree incline with summer tires, so anyone who makes it out of their driveway in such a car probably has snow tires, which makes that car more capable and safer than 99% of the rest of the world driving on sh*tty all seasons (like every SUV in the ditch).
I was out Friday night in the storm, twice on Saturday then again on Sunday. I'm 20 miles north of GB out in the country and that entire stretch only 2 cars in the ditch all weekend. I was actually quite surprised.
We had more issues of snow piled up in round-abouts after the roads were clear, flipped over a couple SUV's.
Yup. I came through Chicago Sunday morning, over to Rockford and then north. A bit slippery on the west side of Chicago. A M/B SUV had spun out on a bridge and backed into the wall hard (crushed the back end in rather nicely). ABS, AWD, traction control, stability control, all that can't fix stupid.
I think the horrible roads kept most of the fools off the road. And the ones who did go out were careful (because it was bad). Once the roads are plowed, then it's back to normal (stupid). I'm not at all surprised that there were a few SUVs flipped over. See the above sentence about the M/B.
Yes, I tend to be a bit judgemental and cynical about bad drivers. Comes with the job.
Seriously I get it, there is nothing wrong with taking care of your car and proper seasonal cleaning will negate any of the issues you mention. But, if you can't use it as it was meant to be used, why bother.
FWIW, I used to put snow chains on my first 928 (84) to make it to the ski slopes, didn't have a rack then so the skis were inside. Didn't give it a thought to not do that. I know how to drive in snow and there are many, many more crazy drivers on the roads when the weather is good as compared to when it is bad. Usually in really bad weather I would be the only crazy person on the road, in my mind it was much safer that way, LOL
Cheers,
Dave
I respectfully disagree. A car driven in the weather will never remain as nice as one which is not. I have an SUV for my bike rack and skis, and leave the sports cars for, well, sporty driving.
For disclosure, I've had my skis down the center of a 928, and run cables on rear tires. But never again.
I thought we were talking about 928's here, which isn't a sports car. It's a GT.
Originally Posted by XS29L9B
I respectfully disagree. A car driven in the weather will never remain as nice as one which is not.
Well no kidding.....but let's not go to the extreme of some of my Corvette buddies who rush their car home when a cloud rolls in since they are afraid to get their detailed under carriage dirty. No, I'm not kidding.
The primary problem with snow driving in the 'states is salt, not the actual weather. If the state I lived in didn't turn the entire geography around me into a giant salt lick 4 months out of the year, I'd slap some Nokians on and drive year round.
There's an element of ultimate cool pulling up to the ski resort in something like a 911, 928, or a Lotus while everyone else is in their bloated SUV's.
This Lamborghini is worth more than a warehouse full of 928's, doesn't bother them any:
04-27-2018, 01:02 AM
Wife was not too happy though.
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