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Old 12-06-2017, 03:35 AM
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Default Cheaper S4 A Arm Solution Perhaps (Update)

Just sent my A Arms to a guy here in AU called, The Ball Joint Doctor. Spoke with him at length about the process and the results. In his thirty odd years he claims that 99% of all ball joint failures are the nylon cups wearing out. You can read how he fixes it. The process is allowed and has been tested by our D.O.T. Not surprised considering he's doing the process on prime movers.
AU$300 (so like US$25.00) for both sides with new boots etc. Should have them back in a week all ready to go and with a grease nipple.

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Wow! Seems like a heck of a deal. I don't know how he makes money on that.
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Originally Posted by DeWolf
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AU$300 (so like US$25.00) for both sides with new boots etc. Should have them back in a week all ready to go and with a grease nipple.
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Guessing the AU$ is worth more than that. Maybe US$250 for the pair would be closer.

How did they manage the inner control shaft bushings?

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We can get full rebuilt control arms from 928Rus or International for not much more. That's the better buy.
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Got these back yesterday. Very happy with them. For us Aussie guys this is cheaper alternative to the brilliant rebuilt ones by the various vendors. Not to mention the custom built ones. For the rebuilt ones we'd be looking at about AU$1100.00 shipped a pair. These were $300.00. The guy checks them carefully and measures the play and if he thinks they're beyond repair, he'll let you know. They went to him so sloppy they were like cooked spaghetti. Now they are incredibly tight.
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Scott,

Did you manage to get anything out of the chap to understand exactly what he does to earn your hard earned?
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Hi Fred,

Yeh. He injects some super duper poly resin under extreme pressure to form a new ball cup from what I gather. He then removes the injector and fits the grease nipple. He reckons pop some grease in every 50,000kms and all will be well. I have read about a large taxi company that get their joints done by him and they are still good after 150,000kms. I doubt I'll do 150,000kms in the 928.

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Good sleuthing Scott - I can offer it as a cost effect source for my customers down under.

Shipping to the other side of the World is bad enough but add in the core charge and it soon becomes a lot of money. Most customers have to eat the core charge because it can be more expensive to send them back.
I try and buy used of eBay for $50 each and offer those - cheaper for the overseas customer to pay the $50 and have no additional core costs and shipping.
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Hi Roger,
I'm really happy with them. I've installed the drivers side (RHD) with upper and lower wishbones etc and with the poly bushes the whole thing is super tight. Can't wait to drive it.

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Originally Posted by DeWolf
Hi Fred,

Yeh. He injects some super duper poly resin under extreme pressure to form a new ball cup from what I gather. He then removes the injector and fits the grease nipple. He reckons pop some grease in every 50,000kms and all will be well. I have read about a large taxi company that get their joints done by him and they are still good after 150,000kms. I doubt I'll do 150,000kms in the 928.

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Scott,

An interesting alternative. I have the very problem Roger articulated in his post in that sending stuff around the world to be worked on is usually prohibitively expensive. If I have anything that is a bit on the heavy side I try to carry it from the UK in my baggage. Shipping costs across the world usually work out around $25/kg. So if one has a piece that weights 2kg, by the time it is packaged one is closer to 3kg, and then a return trip costs US$300 plus whatever is done to the part.

At the moment I have a spare [good] passenger side arm and my current concern is the driver side arm. I cannot find any play in it but at 160k km it must be past its prime. The bushes arrived OK from Aus so planning to change those out to see if that eliminates the mystery squeak over speed bumps.

Your suspension is looking real good!

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Fred,

It's coming along. I found a lot of parts here in Oz from a guy that was doing a rebuild and decided against it. So I got the new ball joints etc for bugger all.
Those poly bushes are excellent. One is tricky to get in, the cotton reel one, but it returns to it's normal shape. I think the suspension is going to be very compliant after all this.
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Originally Posted by DeWolf
Fred,

It's coming along. I found a lot of parts here in Oz from a guy that was doing a rebuild and decided against it. So I got the new ball joints etc for bugger all.
Those poly bushes are excellent. One is tricky to get in, the cotton reel one, but it returns to it's normal shape. I think the suspension is going to be very compliant after all this.
Scott,

I see you have fitted what looks like the Powerflex bush kit to the lower arm. No idea if you are aware but when I was in the UK recently I talked to Powerflex and they advised they were modifying the lower arm kit bushes following dialogue with one of our friends but the revision is not going to be available until somewhere Jan/Feb time. If my observation is correct you might do well to contact them to ascertain the nature of the revision and whether it has any impact in your case..
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Did a source ever turn up for just the boots? At least one of my cars the joint seemed fine, but boot was rotted and cracked.
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Did a source ever turn up for just the boots? At least one of my cars the joint seemed fine, but boot was rotted and cracked.
I got my boots from Roger but I understand they are commonly available.
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Originally Posted by FredR
Scott,

I see you have fitted what looks like the Powerflex bush kit to the lower arm. No idea if you are aware but when I was in the UK recently I talked to Powerflex and they advised they were modifying the lower arm kit bushes following dialogue with one of our friends but the revision is not going to be available until somewhere Jan/Feb time. If my observation is correct you might do well to contact them to ascertain the nature of the revision and whether it has any impact in your case..
Thanks Fred, had no idea. If it's a notable change I'll buy the new ones and replace them. Easy enough to do now.


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