Wheels offset and all that
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From: Oman
Lars,
Really you should not be driving around on something like that. Were you to have an accident I would not mind betting your insurance company would refuse to pay out irrespective of whether that caused the problem. Do you have anything like Germany where any non stock mod requires TUV approval to make it legal?
Stan has given you two sound options [he always does]- you just have to make up your mind which of the two paths you wish to take. Your front tyre is fine. At least you understand that an adapter bracket is required to fit the S4 caliper on the earlier wheel carrier. I would think you can pick up a pair of these quite cheaply and recover most or maybe all of your costs selling on the S4 spindles. You can try 928 International to see what they can do the early spindles for or maybe a scrap yard closer to home.
There is also another option [not that I recommend it] and that is to get some S4 wheels with correct offset of ET65 which in 17 inch format means a set of GTS wheels. If nothing else it would probably get your wheels clear of the fender but you would still have the NSR way off.
Do it once and do it right!
Whoever did that front modification ought to be in prison quite frankly.
Really you should not be driving around on something like that. Were you to have an accident I would not mind betting your insurance company would refuse to pay out irrespective of whether that caused the problem. Do you have anything like Germany where any non stock mod requires TUV approval to make it legal?
Stan has given you two sound options [he always does]- you just have to make up your mind which of the two paths you wish to take. Your front tyre is fine. At least you understand that an adapter bracket is required to fit the S4 caliper on the earlier wheel carrier. I would think you can pick up a pair of these quite cheaply and recover most or maybe all of your costs selling on the S4 spindles. You can try 928 International to see what they can do the early spindles for or maybe a scrap yard closer to home.
There is also another option [not that I recommend it] and that is to get some S4 wheels with correct offset of ET65 which in 17 inch format means a set of GTS wheels. If nothing else it would probably get your wheels clear of the fender but you would still have the NSR way off.
Do it once and do it right!
Whoever did that front modification ought to be in prison quite frankly.
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Fred,
I really appreciate the input. If it doesnt seem like it its just me trying to make sense of the information.
Thats why I asked: "Could the solution possible be, as MrMerlin suggested, that I change spindle for S2 ones and get the adapter from 928Motorsports (I am heading to US in early november so I could pick it up there)"
If so that would be great - early spindles seems to be somewhat available here in Europe. I guess we are talking S2 / MY 80-84? And as mentioned I am heading to the US soon.
And yes we have regular government regulated tests around here - I have passed them 2 or 3 times and done some work on the suspension / had a respectable 928 mechanic do some work on the car :-) The car is from Germany and was probably modified there before it was exported. I am very happy with the big brakes but would like to fix the front once and for all - so thank you for your input. I will work towards a permanent solution as I am looking to keep that car for a long time.
/Lars
I really appreciate the input. If it doesnt seem like it its just me trying to make sense of the information.
Thats why I asked: "Could the solution possible be, as MrMerlin suggested, that I change spindle for S2 ones and get the adapter from 928Motorsports (I am heading to US in early november so I could pick it up there)"
If so that would be great - early spindles seems to be somewhat available here in Europe. I guess we are talking S2 / MY 80-84? And as mentioned I am heading to the US soon.
And yes we have regular government regulated tests around here - I have passed them 2 or 3 times and done some work on the suspension / had a respectable 928 mechanic do some work on the car :-) The car is from Germany and was probably modified there before it was exported. I am very happy with the big brakes but would like to fix the front once and for all - so thank you for your input. I will work towards a permanent solution as I am looking to keep that car for a long time.
/Lars
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Fred,
I really appreciate the input. If it doesnt seem like it its just me trying to make sense of the information.
Thats why I asked: "Could the solution possible be, as MrMerlin suggested, that I change spindle for S2 ones and get the adapter from 928Motorsports (I am heading to US in early november so I could pick it up there)"
If so that would be great - early spindles seems to be somewhat available here in Europe. I guess we are talking S2 / MY 80-84?
And yes we have regular government regulated tests around here - I have passed them 2 or 3 times .
/Lars
I really appreciate the input. If it doesnt seem like it its just me trying to make sense of the information.
Thats why I asked: "Could the solution possible be, as MrMerlin suggested, that I change spindle for S2 ones and get the adapter from 928Motorsports (I am heading to US in early november so I could pick it up there)"
If so that would be great - early spindles seems to be somewhat available here in Europe. I guess we are talking S2 / MY 80-84?
And yes we have regular government regulated tests around here - I have passed them 2 or 3 times .
/Lars
In your position I think I would revert to the stock spindle and thus retain a bit more originality, especially if it is cheaper to do so. The bracket required to convert your model to S4 brakes is a well established upgrade and the earlier upper A arm has the advantage that you can rebuild the ball joints if they have not been done already.
If any inspector passed that abortion of a setup you have then he must be either blind, drunk or both [Carlsberg- probably the best lager in the world!].
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From: Denmark
Lars,
In your position I think I would revert to the stock spindle and thus retain a bit more originality, especially if it is cheaper to do so. The bracket required to convert your model to S4 brakes is a well established upgrade and the earlier upper A arm has the advantage that you can rebuild the ball joints if they have not been done already.
If any inspector passed that abortion of a setup you have then he must be either blind, drunk or both [Carlsberg- probably the best lager in the world!].
In your position I think I would revert to the stock spindle and thus retain a bit more originality, especially if it is cheaper to do so. The bracket required to convert your model to S4 brakes is a well established upgrade and the earlier upper A arm has the advantage that you can rebuild the ball joints if they have not been done already.
If any inspector passed that abortion of a setup you have then he must be either blind, drunk or both [Carlsberg- probably the best lager in the world!].
Can you remember the model years that are a fit? Something like 80 to 84?
And go easy on the inspectors - there is only 55-60 928´s in the whole country. And you never know when you need them to overlook small flaws :-)
/Lars
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get SS brake lines as well Roger sells them,
They are plug and play if you get the right ones.
take pictures so you get the right set,
you need pictures of the front and rear calipers and pictures of the connections for line
They are plug and play if you get the right ones.
take pictures so you get the right set,
you need pictures of the front and rear calipers and pictures of the connections for line
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From: Oman
Good input. I will look for a pair of local spindles and have a local specialist install them.
Can you remember the model years that are a fit? Something like 80 to 84?
And go easy on the inspectors - there is only 55-60 928´s in the whole country. And you never know when you need them to overlook small flaws :-)
/Lars
Can you remember the model years that are a fit? Something like 80 to 84?
And go easy on the inspectors - there is only 55-60 928´s in the whole country. And you never know when you need them to overlook small flaws :-)
/Lars
Do pay attention to his recommendation for the SS brake lines - I have used them for years.
The good thing about not having too many examples on your roads is that the inspectors are not too familiar with them so probably do not immediately recognise what might be non compliant. As I am aware mine is the only operational 928 in Oman at the moment but that also means everyone [in Porsche circles at least] knows who is driving it! So I have to be careful these days. At my annual inspection the police inspectors usually ask if I want to sell it! Generally they take one look at it and pass it with a big smile of appreciation- super people!
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From: Denmark
Just a quick follow up:
I visited the local 928 specialist today for a look at the front and he confirmed your observations.
So he will source some used early spindles for me and I will buy the 928motorsports adapter. Hopefully this will solve the problem and improve the handling.
So thank you for your input!
Lars
I visited the local 928 specialist today for a look at the front and he confirmed your observations.
So he will source some used early spindles for me and I will buy the 928motorsports adapter. Hopefully this will solve the problem and improve the handling.
So thank you for your input!
Lars
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