Timing belt. When need to change
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Timing belt. When need to change
I'm interested in a 88 944 non turbo and non S
I did look around for the timing belt kit with water pump runs around 500 to 600. How much does it cost for an Indy shop to replace? How many hours?
Is it true that timing belts needs to change every 30k miles?
That is very low miles compare to the Japanse which is before 90k and the cost is about 1/3. I id understand this is PORSHCE
I did look around for the timing belt kit with water pump runs around 500 to 600. How much does it cost for an Indy shop to replace? How many hours?
Is it true that timing belts needs to change every 30k miles?
That is very low miles compare to the Japanse which is before 90k and the cost is about 1/3. I id understand this is PORSHCE
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The best time to change the belt is right before it breaks, as opposed to right after it breaks. But, you never know when that will be... So the guideline is 30k miles or 3 years - whichever comes first.
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Rainman
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timing belt kit about $200-250 depending where you buy.
i prefer the ZIMS REMANUFACTURED water pumps exclusively at about $110 on exchange for your old core.
doing the timing belt alone is a 2 hour job for any semi-decent shop. doing the WP should only add a few more hours beyond that (definitely less than a day's work = 8 hours or less).
you must replace the timing belt, balance belt and all the rollers/tensioners every 30k miles.
even though your model car has an "automatic" belt tensioner the actual belt tension still needs to be verified before buttoning up the car.
i prefer the ZIMS REMANUFACTURED water pumps exclusively at about $110 on exchange for your old core.
doing the timing belt alone is a 2 hour job for any semi-decent shop. doing the WP should only add a few more hours beyond that (definitely less than a day's work = 8 hours or less).
you must replace the timing belt, balance belt and all the rollers/tensioners every 30k miles.
even though your model car has an "automatic" belt tensioner the actual belt tension still needs to be verified before buttoning up the car.
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Frequent timing belt changes are the dues you pay for that 944 key on your key ring. It's just the price of admission. Will they last longer.... Yes. Do they? Sometimes. The question is, are you feeling lucky?
30k/3y is what's most likely going to keep you safe. It's what 30 years and millions of miles of experience have taught the community is the magic number. Go over that and all I can say is " May the odds forever be in your favor" and good luck.
30k/3y is what's most likely going to keep you safe. It's what 30 years and millions of miles of experience have taught the community is the magic number. Go over that and all I can say is " May the odds forever be in your favor" and good luck.
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Changing the timing belt and water pump on my DOHC Subaru last weekend made me really appreciate how simple it is on these cars. It's almost a joke that people make it seem like a huge issue. It's 1 cam cog, and it isn't even spring loaded by the cam(s) to fight the correct alignment, like a lot of cars. It's only a problem if you aren't familiar with the proper tension, and refuse to buy a tool to set it properly. And the cost of the parts themselves is not tragic.
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I think he was asking how many hours of RUNNING a race car before changing the timing belt. I race BMW and change the timing belt every season.
If I raced my 944 I'd probably do the same unless I ran 24 hour races.
If I raced my 944 I'd probably do the same unless I ran 24 hour races.
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Any idea how much (dollar amount) to get a timing belt changed from a local Indy shop (min to max)
I do see some special tools needed and how much to budget on those timing belt tools? Does these TB tools good for 944,994S AND S2?
I do see some special tools needed and how much to budget on those timing belt tools? Does these TB tools good for 944,994S AND S2?
#12
Sounds like 8 hours or slightly less at approximately 100 bucks an hour...give or take...then add in 200 for the belt and 110 for the remanufactured water pump every 30k miles...
No offense but now I understand why i see so many 944 s sitting pretty in the same spot for years...
The maintance schedule is kind of ridiculous compared to other less valued brands...
I just put gas and oil in my 2008 c6 corvette z51 that I've owned since new and now have 110k miles on it.
I envy you guys with the passion for foreign brands...and those who have the patience of a second mistress...
I was a foreign car enthusiasts in the 1970s and 1980s....but by the late 1990 s I switched over to corvettes...fast as hell and basically no running costs....of course repairs ....just ,let some crayons and your good to go...(kidding of course)
The 944 s are pretty cars and considering the low buy in these days....the 1500 dollar maintance every 3 years or 30k miles is not totally unreasonable...
Good luck and thanks for sharing....
Porsche...a beautiful german sports car
No offense but now I understand why i see so many 944 s sitting pretty in the same spot for years...
The maintance schedule is kind of ridiculous compared to other less valued brands...
I just put gas and oil in my 2008 c6 corvette z51 that I've owned since new and now have 110k miles on it.
I envy you guys with the passion for foreign brands...and those who have the patience of a second mistress...
I was a foreign car enthusiasts in the 1970s and 1980s....but by the late 1990 s I switched over to corvettes...fast as hell and basically no running costs....of course repairs ....just ,let some crayons and your good to go...(kidding of course)
The 944 s are pretty cars and considering the low buy in these days....the 1500 dollar maintance every 3 years or 30k miles is not totally unreasonable...
Good luck and thanks for sharing....
Porsche...a beautiful german sports car
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I just put gas and oil in my 2008 c6 corvette z51 that I've owned since new and now have 110k miles on it.
I was a foreign car enthusiasts in the 1970s and 1980s....but by the late 1990 s I switched over to corvettes...fast as hell and basically no running costs....of course repairs ....just ,let some crayons and your good to go...(kidding of course)
I was a foreign car enthusiasts in the 1970s and 1980s....but by the late 1990 s I switched over to corvettes...fast as hell and basically no running costs....of course repairs ....just ,let some crayons and your good to go...(kidding of course)
Both are fun, but they're quite different in many ways.
In terms of racing maintenance, the 'vette needs more - brute force can break a lot of sh*t.
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Sounds like 8 hours or slightly less at approximately 100 bucks an hour...give or take...then add in 200 for the belt and 110 for the remanufactured water pump every 30k miles...
No offense but now I understand why i see so many 944 s sitting pretty in the same spot for years...
The maintance schedule is kind of ridiculous compared to other less valued brands...
No offense but now I understand why i see so many 944 s sitting pretty in the same spot for years...
The maintance schedule is kind of ridiculous compared to other less valued brands...
You're looking at less than $250, shipped, for the parts. You only need the new rollers every other belt change (generally) which makes up the majority of the price. As you can see, the belts themselves are under $20 each.
Water pump is another every-other-belt thing:
https://www.allzim.com/store/924-944...tem/water-pump
You get the idea. The labor is more expensive than the parts. A competent indy shop should be able to do the belts in under 4 hours. Rollers/belt/WP may put you at 8 hours. I was able to do my timing belt, rollers, water pump, and front main seal + etc in about 4 hours last year...but I don't have a balance shaft system nor do I run belt covers so that makes it a lot easier.
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Rainman
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944 rollers are NO GOOD after one belt cycle.
i have done more 944 timing belts than most...and never have i found a roller good enough to re-use. they are all loose or noisy.