Ball Joint Failure / Replacement Arm or Ball Joint?
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Ball Joint Failure / Replacement Arm or Ball Joint?
I'm happy to say that this failure happened at low speed. I could have taken the freeway but decided not to. Lets just say, just imaging what would of happened to me with a ball joint failure at 60+ mph
A few quick pics. Need to understand if this failure at the arm is rebuildable with Geometry Correction Kit or should I just buy a used set of control arms and rebuild all the bushings. Car is lowered on Ground Control front and rear with rear torsion delete with delrin spring plate bushings. 300# front and 500# rear for the street. Need opinions or advices. Thanks in advance.
A few quick pics. Need to understand if this failure at the arm is rebuildable with Geometry Correction Kit or should I just buy a used set of control arms and rebuild all the bushings. Car is lowered on Ground Control front and rear with rear torsion delete with delrin spring plate bushings. 300# front and 500# rear for the street. Need opinions or advices. Thanks in advance.
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Yikes I wouldn't chance rebuilding arms after an experience like that. I'd get a pair of these and figure out how to pay for them later: https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=...gleSKU_porsche
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This is the problem.
By lowering the car, you've limited the travel so the ball joint binds with the pocket in the aluminum control arm. This binding up caused it to break a piece of the control arm off, and thus the ball popped out.
It is not rebuildable.
Either get a set of good after market arms like the racers use; or raise the ride height of the car and use a stock arm, or get a stock arm and modify it for the geometry correction.
By lowering the car, you've limited the travel so the ball joint binds with the pocket in the aluminum control arm. This binding up caused it to break a piece of the control arm off, and thus the ball popped out.
It is not rebuildable.
Either get a set of good after market arms like the racers use; or raise the ride height of the car and use a stock arm, or get a stock arm and modify it for the geometry correction.
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Yikes I wouldn't chance rebuilding arms after an experience like that. I'd get a pair of these and figure out how to pay for them later: https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=...gleSKU_porsche
This is the problem.
By lowering the car, you've limited the travel so the ball joint binds with the pocket in the aluminum control arm. This binding up caused it to break a piece of the control arm off, and thus the ball popped out.
It is not rebuildable.
Either get a set of good after market arms like the racers use; or raise the ride height of the car and use a stock arm, or get a stock arm and modify it for the geometry correction.
By lowering the car, you've limited the travel so the ball joint binds with the pocket in the aluminum control arm. This binding up caused it to break a piece of the control arm off, and thus the ball popped out.
It is not rebuildable.
Either get a set of good after market arms like the racers use; or raise the ride height of the car and use a stock arm, or get a stock arm and modify it for the geometry correction.
Thanks for all the suggestions.!
Just saw a post Van made which made a valid point on GCK Ball Joint Pins. His concern was taking material off the hub to make room for the 19mm pin, which would be another point of failure. Looking at aftermarket arms now, Racer's Edge or High Strung 44.
Last edited by shortyboy; 02-04-2016 at 03:00 PM.
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#10
CHECK THIS OUT
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...-solution.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...-solution.html
#12
You can use the stock A-arms (not the one that broke) with a Rennbay ball joint kit (I presume they are still available). They are longer and will adjust for the lowered car. You can also get 19mm pins, but it would require some machine work to fit. Not needed for the street. I put a set of 19mm rennbay pins in my track car in 2006. They are still in there after 10 years. No problems. It's a pretty easy fix. Your failure is classic. Lucky no one was hurt. Donate the broken arm to your local PCA chapter to use as and example during a tech session.
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That's great to here. Don't need the bump steer kit. Will do some research on parts needed for conversion. 944 online no longer offers the kit. Thabks as always Van with your explanations.
#14
Are we talking about this kit? http://rennbay.com/Ball-Joints/944-Ball-Joint-Kit-Solid-Bushing.html
Would like to possible stay away from modifying the hubs. Thanks for the info!
Would like to possible stay away from modifying the hubs. Thanks for the info!
You can use the stock A-arms (not the one that broke) with a Rennbay ball joint kit (I presume they are still available). They are longer and will adjust for the lowered car. You can also get 19mm pins, but it would require some machine work to fit. Not needed for the street. I put a set of 19mm rennbay pins in my track car in 2006. They are still in there after 10 years. No problems. It's a pretty easy fix. Your failure is classic. Lucky no one was hurt. Donate the broken arm to your local PCA chapter to use as and example during a tech session.