IceShark

Ag, most people have never heard of the "Use" part of their sales tax law and it is rarely complied with. Every State I have looked at has this sister tax provision, it is basically a uniform code they all use. The fact is the States can't catch and justify, expense wise, tracking a 100 buck mail order sale for say 7 or 8 bucks in Use tax. So they go after the easy high buck items like boats and cars that need to be registered.

As far as companies collecting sales taxes when they don't need to: The States were really raising hell to collect the taxes prior to the Supreme Court decision. They threatened the companies with all sorts of fines if they didn't sign an agreement. Some caved in and signed, so they now collect the taxes and are at a competitive disadvantage. Gateway Computer caved and your mail order will be taxed. Dell didn't and no tax if they don't have a facility (nexus) in your State. Ever look at their respective sales? This is a big advantage to Dell.

Ag951

Gateway has stores in most (all?) states, so they would have to pay sales tax on mail order purchases anyway.

IceShark

No, tax settlement was prior to the disaster of opening up the local look-see stores. I made a huge amount of money shorting GTW so you are way behind the curve. It was $50 plus and I rode it down to $5. I know what I'm talking about. They are crashing and burning those stores now. Was a really stoopit business direction.

txhedg

Spoken like a true Californian.....with an attitude like that it wont matter if you have a **** star or a midget (excuse me, a vertically challenged gentleman) running your damn state.

Budget cuts of things like worthless social programs, need-based subsidies, and education for everyperson who walks across the border.....god those would be horrible things to cut.

Sid's and his boys in NH seem to have gotten along ok without the need for taxation, and here in Texas we have been able to get by without a state income tax. Taxes and Gov't spending (especially at the state level) is kinda like your salary and your wife's spending habits.....no matter how much you make, your wife can always find something to spend it on, no matter how unneccesary.

marky522

Hey Dan, I have registered MANY cars in MI, Just put down a lower amount be reasonable, If it was me i would put $800, if they ask why its soo cheap, which they never have for me, say its a parts car or its beat, my cousin regestered his Corvette and told them $50 and it was a parts car, by law you have to register and plate any car on your property (where i live) so they dont question anything.

MArk

xsboost90

i bought my car in arkansas, when i went to the dmv, i said i paid 400 for it, which i did, plus that extra 6000 bike i traded for it. the lady doing the state insp. said i got a good deal, i told her that the trans had been blown up and i had to fix it...:P unless the original owner somehow tells the state, whos to know?

UDPride

When you buy the car from someone for $20,000 or whatever, buy something else from them like a spool of yarn for $1. Write them a check for the yarn for $20,000 and a check for the car for $1.

Legoland951

Hey not all Californians are socialists. There are some of us believing in personal responsibility and having English as the official language along with no nonsense spending. Too bad these things don't exist right now and I want the recall even if it is to show any damn future politicians that if they are not accountable for the condition of the state, they can be booted just like any CEO of any major corporation. Someone has to be accountable and I will support as many recalls until we can find ONE person who can get the job done and not have business as usual. If you have to pay $1200 a year for a new car registration on top of the 8.25 percent sales tax ($6000 more) like my friend had to do, I think you would be outraged too.

IceShark

Guys, I'm not saying you can't lie about the sales price and under report it. But you better have your story and documents straight and be ready for a good clerk that may beat you up.

We have DMV clerks giving drivers licenses to terrorists for a few extra bucks in their pocket. Those clerks should be stood up and shot by firing squad.

Legoland951

I agree some DMV employees are very annoying and have the "god complex". Most private party transactions have inacurate sales prices from what I have seen. You can always sell the car for $100 and the wheels for $5000 and get away on technicalities.

Dan87951

THanks for the info guys!

'88-924S

I wonder if the insurance companies use regestration #s(model/year/mileage/selling price) for their calim values. Maybe that's why everytime we have a claim, we say, "Can you believe the (insanely low) value the insurance company put on my Porsche!"

Bill

txhedg:

Third generation and proud of it.

Contrary to the belief of most Republicans, our tax dollars are spent on SOME good things. Last time I checked, Texans were driving on roads built and maintained by public tax dollars generated in part by DMV fees.

Legality asside, it is the right thing to do. I wonder how you felt when your fellow Texans were locked out of Enron or World Com. Or is that just the Texas attitude?

The vote is still out on that.

txhedg

Even as a Republican, I would agree with that....but if you admit SOME of them are good things, doesnt that mean that SOME of them aren't??? Get rid of the bad programs, and you can cut taxes

Yes, we pay a one-time fee of 6.25% when we purchase any car.....I was commenting more on your overall comment of just blindly paying taxes if you "like the services you get in this country"....that is the mindset that lets the porkbarrel keep rolling along, with more and more useless government expenses and programs

I agree that if you are required by law to pay certain taxes, you should. It doesn't mean you have to agree with the morality or effectiveness of such taxes, and that you don't have the right to disagree and try to change them.

Locked out?? Not sure what you mean. Lost money, jobs, etc, certainly. Infact, I used to work for enron. What went on at ENE and Worldcom was fraudulent activity (some of it anyway, there are things that Enron is being accused of that I KNOW first hand are not true), and was certainly wrong. That is a hell of a lot different than complaining (and trying to do something about the fact) that your state overtaxes the hard-working, income producing sector of society to support those who are not.

For yucks, lets assume the $$ paid to the DMV for auto sales taxes actually goes to pay for road infrastructure maintenance and improvements. Think about this case:

Two people that walk into a dealership the same day, and one guy buys a $75k 911 and the other buys a $25k Taurus. Both guys drive about 15k miles per year, both cars weigh roughly the same, and emit similar emissions. They both get the same amount of "utility" out of their use of the roadway infrastructure (although the 911 guy obviously will enjoy his time on the road more), both take up the same amount of space on the highway, and both exact about the same amount of damage to the roads they drive on......so then why does the 911 driver have to pay 3 times as much in sales tax for his car? Because he "can afford it"??? To me that is a morally objectionable way to allocate costs of our society, but one that much of our country, liberals especially, hold dear to their hearts.

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