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Old 06-12-2001, 01:37 PM
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Question A-Arm sizes?

My S2 is going to need a new A-Arm, it has a bit of play and needs replacing before my next DE.

What years can I use? I have seen some for sale in the rennlist classifieds, but I am not sure if my A-Arm is specific to the Turbo & S2 cars with ABS or if any A-Arm for the 85.5 model and newer will work.

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MY87 and later, Non-M030 (unless you have M030).

Used may be the wrong way to go though... never know how long that'll last.

Good Luck!
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Go look at the Suspension Section of The 944 FAQ.
These parts are good for moderate competition. (Time trials etc.)

951 341 027 32 L/S Competition version arm (slotted groove on side of ball joint)
951 341 028 32 R/S Competition version arm
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You need X-tra Large.

-just make sure they are 87+
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Thanks everybody for the responses, except Keith (just kidding), but I have now another question:

Are the standard A-arms on the 951 the same as the ones referred to in the 944 FAQ as "competition A-arms" or are they special order items? I do not really remember seeing them in my catalogues, but then again I did not know what to look for.

I definitely want to go the competition A-arm route since I am planning on attending several DE events a year.

I agree that used are a risk, and not my first choice, but the Minister of Finance is not always understanding about my passion and insists on doing things like upgrading the house.

Thanks.
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More info on front control arms (A-arms):
  1. 924 mid 82 and older - stamped steel - VW/Audi part# 477.407.153F (left & right)
  2. 924 mid 82 and later, 924S, 944 83-85.1 - stamped steel - VW/Audi part# 171.407.153D (left & right)
  3. 944 85.5-86 na/Turbo - Cast aluminum - 951.341.027.00 (left), 951.341.028.00 (right)
  4. 944/968 87-95 na/S/S2/Turbo non-M758/M030 - cast aluminum - 944.341.027.02 (left), 944.341.028.02 (right)
  5. 944/968 87-95 M758/M030 & 89 Turbo - Cast Aluminum (larger slotted pin) - 951.341.027.31 (left), 951.341.028.31 (right) [PCNA superceded part# - change 027/028 to 927/928]

I've found no other reference to verify the current existence of "competition arms" as stated in a letter from Alwin Springer located in the 944 FAQ. The part numbers were: 951.341.027.32 and 951.341.028.32.

Conjecture:
  1. Steel arms are very cheap, and, can be retrofitted to 85.5-86 944's. The advantage being the affordablility and ease of ball-joint replacement. Blaszak Precision markets a custom reinforced version of the steel arm for 83-86 944 race applications.
  2. Rebuilt Aluminum arms can be found for as little as $150, though these are NOT recommended for use in extended track applications.
  3. New OE Porsche aluminum arms for non-M758/M030 cars can be found at dealers and select others for ~$450-600
  4. New OE Porsche aluminum arms for M758/M030 cars can be found at dealers and select others for ~$750
  5. Aftermarket Race application A-arms go for ~$1600/set. These billet aluminum pieces feature stronger overall construction, replaceable/servicable ball-joints, spherical cross-member bushing, and spherical caster eccentric bushing (optional). They are direct bolt-on for 85.5-86 and 87-95 944/968 cars, and could easily be applied to 83-85.1 944's as well.

Here's some pics to go with the explanation:
  • Early Steel Arm -
  • Late Aluminum Arm -
  • Aftermarket Arm -

Please let me know if there are an corrections or other questions.

Good Luck Folks!

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