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Old 01-24-2014, 02:51 AM
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Why didn't you start your own thread??

I haven't heard of using acetone, but I'll assume it does the same thing as denatured alcohol or ethanol. Using those will improve CO and HC numbers but will raise NO (iirc).

What were your numbers from the first smog test?
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Originally Posted by FRporscheman
Why didn't you start your own thread??

I haven't heard of using acetone, but I'll assume it does the same thing as denatured alcohol or ethanol. Using those will improve CO and HC numbers but will raise NO (iirc).

What were your numbers from the first smog test?
I didn't start my own thread because there are already a ton of threads about failed smog tests. I didn't want to add to the clutter. Acetone is supposed to lower NOx(from what I've read in other smog threads. Here is the retest fail sheet. The first numbers are at the bottom.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:25 PM
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CA smog tech here. .You have no oxygen left over for you cat to react correctly. As long as you are certain you dont have any major exhaust leaks, your cat is toast
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Originally Posted by kev951
CA smog tech here. .You have no oxygen left over for you cat to react correctly. As long as you are certain you dont have any major exhaust leaks, your cat is toast

No exhaust leaks.


So a new cat is the only fix?
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You do have some room to trade HC for NOX...
However, the 944S/S2 is very aggressive about its closed-loop operation, so adding fuel via the FQS might not do much for an emissions test.
You could try adding fuel via the FQS, or removing some ignition timing via the FQS... Doing both might eat up all the margin you currently have on HC.

If you would try again, then I would either add fuel or remove timing. Additionally, I bump up rear tire pressure by 10psi or so. The idea being to try and get rolling resistance down.
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
You do have some room to trade HC for NOX...
However, the 944S/S2 is very aggressive about its closed-loop operation, so adding fuel via the FQS might not do much for an emissions test.
You could try adding fuel via the FQS, or removing some ignition timing via the FQS... Doing both might eat up all the margin you currently have on HC.

If you would try again, then I would either add fuel or remove timing. Additionally, I bump up rear tire pressure by 10psi or so. The idea being to try and get rolling resistance down.
Could I do more than 6 oz of acetone in a full tank of gas?
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Originally Posted by azbanks
Could I do more than 6 oz of acetone in a full tank of gas?
I wouldn't. Acetone lowers the surface tension of the fuel. This helps with atomization, possibly resulting in a more homogeneous air/fuel mixture. But I wouldn't run any more than what you currently have in there..
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the acetone and going to fqs position 5 got me an improvement. Should I try fqs position 7?
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Yeah, and high tire pressure, and make sure the exhaust is HOT before testing..
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a new cat is not terribly expensive, why damage the car to avoid what you will have to do anyway?
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Originally Posted by william_b_noble
a new cat is not terribly expensive, why damage the car to avoid what you will have to do anyway?
Because fairly soon after I get it to pass smog and renew the registration, I'm taking it off the road to swap in the turbo engine from my old 951. It has a new cat so I don't want to buy one for this exhaust when it is just going to get replaced.
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I'm sure you can find a nice cheap factory cat from a fellow rennlister, otherwise, generic cats are dime a dozen. Opt for the three-way cat
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Drive the hell out of it before pulling up to test.
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Originally Posted by azbanks
Because fairly soon after I get it to pass smog and renew the registration, I'm taking it off the road to swap in the turbo engine from my old 951. It has a new cat so I don't want to buy one for this exhaust when it is just going to get replaced.
Howabout "borrowing" the 951 exhaust for the S2 smog test? Cut it off the turbo pipes and add another flange
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
Howabout "borrowing" the 951 exhaust for the S2 smog test? Cut it off the turbo pipes and add another flange


I don't want to screw up the turbo exhaust just to pass the test. I don't need the current exhaust long term, I need the turbo exhaust long term.


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