My (re)build thread. [944/2]
#31
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All your tensioners are 180 degrees out of alignment. The timing belt tensioner should turn counter-clockwise to tighten. The balance belt tensioner should turn clockwise to tighten. The balance belt roller should be the other way around also.
Make sure you double check your balance shaft gears for the "O" showing through the proper round or rectangular slot in the guide.
Make sure you double check your balance shaft gears for the "O" showing through the proper round or rectangular slot in the guide.
#32
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Re: your wheels. They might look awesome while the car's sitting still but when you try to accelerate and turn at the same time, they will surely rub the fender outer lip. I put 17 Cayman wheels on mine and did a trial drive with the original tires and they rubbed. Tires were toast anyhow so I researched TireRack for proper diameter and width to avoid the issue. Magic!!.
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Thanks, Moe
I've got the O's in the properly shaped windows - figures I'd have twisted the tensioners backwards though! They're just finger tight.
TripleSeven; yeah, there's a lot to be sorted with the body, suspension, and wheel fitment still. I've got dials to fall back on, just in case - but I'd like to run the epsilons if I can work it out. Your wheels look fantastic
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I've got the O's in the properly shaped windows - figures I'd have twisted the tensioners backwards though! They're just finger tight.
TripleSeven; yeah, there's a lot to be sorted with the body, suspension, and wheel fitment still. I've got dials to fall back on, just in case - but I'd like to run the epsilons if I can work it out. Your wheels look fantastic
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Looks good, and good luck. And thanks for posting the pics!
Between your work and Van's videos I am actually looking forward to a rebuild on mine, hopefully soon after I get a few more things sorted out on the daily driver 924.
Jeff
Between your work and Van's videos I am actually looking forward to a rebuild on mine, hopefully soon after I get a few more things sorted out on the daily driver 924.
Jeff
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This weekend, I started to swap the funky steering rack for a reman unit, but the tie-rod ends were shot.
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While I was in there (theme for the build..) I did the motor mounts as well.
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And cleaned up the oil pan, which was pretty gunked.
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Black944T -- I picked up a set of quarter glass from Larts awhile back. I appreciate the offer, though!
Jeff -- take lots of pics!
So.. I flipped a face on one of the wheels, and guess what .. the offset was the same. (duh.)
I've heard some 944 have spacers in the rear that can be removed to fit deeper wheels, is this true? Is early offset wider or more narrow (hub-to-hub)? Open to any ideas.
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While I was in there (theme for the build..) I did the motor mounts as well.
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And cleaned up the oil pan, which was pretty gunked.
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Black944T -- I picked up a set of quarter glass from Larts awhile back. I appreciate the offer, though!
Jeff -- take lots of pics!
So.. I flipped a face on one of the wheels, and guess what .. the offset was the same. (duh.)
I've heard some 944 have spacers in the rear that can be removed to fit deeper wheels, is this true? Is early offset wider or more narrow (hub-to-hub)? Open to any ideas.
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Continuing on
Birthday yesterday, so I took the week off and spent some time in the garage.
* Question about the rear offset still stands. But I think I know the answer - I'm gonna have to re-barrel these wheels to make them fit.
So here's the state of things today - the garage is a disaster from me moving the wheels around and jumping from task to task. You can see the 'flipped face' wheel I test fit. No bueno.
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So, I swapped in some fresh motor mounts and cleaned up the cross-member. Here's old and new:
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I also switched the old steering rack for a remanufactured unit, photos below (And above, I guess - forgot I posted that.)
Bushings/mounts. The piece of shrapnel in the center is part of the old mounts, they were toast.
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Rack is installed. Forgot to re-attach the steering knuckle. Derp.
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The powerplant is growing!
I tacked on some fittings, mounts, odds-and-ends. Installed the rebuilt power steering pump and alternator:
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But had trouble with the 5PK836 belt. It's just too short - I read on 944Spec that it's the proper size to delete the AC compressor - but that size apparently is for Early 944. I ordered a longer replacement which might work..
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I also swapped out the clutch master and slave. Fun job, that. I'm 6'6". Standing on my head for long enough to figure out that blasted clip was not my favorite job to date.
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Probably .. not supposed to look like this when it's disconnected?
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I have the brake booster out now for a freshening up and replacement check valve (old one's cracked)
I got a tip earlier about the alignment of my timing adjusters and rollers - which I really appreciate! I haven't taken care of that yet, but it's on the list.
Pardon the disorganized post - just jotting this all down before I forget. Birthday party tonight, so I tried to tidy up the garage a bit:
[pic to follow]
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* Question about the rear offset still stands. But I think I know the answer - I'm gonna have to re-barrel these wheels to make them fit.
So here's the state of things today - the garage is a disaster from me moving the wheels around and jumping from task to task. You can see the 'flipped face' wheel I test fit. No bueno.
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So, I swapped in some fresh motor mounts and cleaned up the cross-member. Here's old and new:
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I also switched the old steering rack for a remanufactured unit, photos below (And above, I guess - forgot I posted that.)
Bushings/mounts. The piece of shrapnel in the center is part of the old mounts, they were toast.
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Rack is installed. Forgot to re-attach the steering knuckle. Derp.
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The powerplant is growing!
I tacked on some fittings, mounts, odds-and-ends. Installed the rebuilt power steering pump and alternator:
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But had trouble with the 5PK836 belt. It's just too short - I read on 944Spec that it's the proper size to delete the AC compressor - but that size apparently is for Early 944. I ordered a longer replacement which might work..
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I also swapped out the clutch master and slave. Fun job, that. I'm 6'6". Standing on my head for long enough to figure out that blasted clip was not my favorite job to date.
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Probably .. not supposed to look like this when it's disconnected?
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I have the brake booster out now for a freshening up and replacement check valve (old one's cracked)
I got a tip earlier about the alignment of my timing adjusters and rollers - which I really appreciate! I haven't taken care of that yet, but it's on the list.
Pardon the disorganized post - just jotting this all down before I forget. Birthday party tonight, so I tried to tidy up the garage a bit:
[pic to follow]
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Okay, so here's my timing arrangement now:
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And I found a belt that works for the alternator w/ AC delete:
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Buttoned up.
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Lookin' good.
Next up,
* Clutch fork bearings - still working on getting the old ones out.
* Check valve for brake booster
* Install motor?
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And I found a belt that works for the alternator w/ AC delete:
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Buttoned up.
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Lookin' good.
Next up,
* Clutch fork bearings - still working on getting the old ones out.
* Check valve for brake booster
* Install motor?
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wow, its coming along nicely!! looking forward to seeing the engine back in the car!!
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Welcome back, race fans.
So, I've been kinda busy.
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But things have settled, and I'm back in the game.
Got me a vacuum check valvey thing and some grommets. Price is absurd.
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und hoses
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vroom, vroom:
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This is my rear main seal installer. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Doubles as a candle holder.
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And special flywheel lock tool:
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Aaand some clutch.
So, I've been kinda busy.
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But things have settled, and I'm back in the game.
Got me a vacuum check valvey thing and some grommets. Price is absurd.
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und hoses
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vroom, vroom:
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This is my rear main seal installer. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Doubles as a candle holder.
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And special flywheel lock tool:
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Aaand some clutch.
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These are the tie-rod ends I intended to use;
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As you can see, they are Chinese and of poor quality. And didn't fit.
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Fortunately, I am a dolt, as evidenced here:
More on my mental prowess later.
Off to the parts store I go, to see what else they've got. Found some Moog parts, Hecho en Estados Unidos - They're nice, serviceable units with grease fittings and better casting. With Castle nut, cotter-pin, etc. But they're in different boxes? And the parts differ from eachother - one has been returned previously. Maybe by a 944 owner as daft as myself.
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Of course, these "don't fit" also... when you try to install them umop apisdn.
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As you can see, they are Chinese and of poor quality. And didn't fit.
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Fortunately, I am a dolt, as evidenced here:
Originally Posted by StoogeMoe
All your tensioners are 180 degrees out of alignment.
Off to the parts store I go, to see what else they've got. Found some Moog parts, Hecho en Estados Unidos - They're nice, serviceable units with grease fittings and better casting. With Castle nut, cotter-pin, etc. But they're in different boxes? And the parts differ from eachother - one has been returned previously. Maybe by a 944 owner as daft as myself.
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Of course, these "don't fit" also... when you try to install them umop apisdn.
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