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Old 02-22-2013, 01:34 AM
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Hi everyone,

I want my S2 brakes powder coated red, from there current black. Trying to add just a bit of "bling" to the black car! They are in great shape and don't need rebuilding.

Question 1 - Can I have them powder coated without removing the pistons and seals? Just tape up the inside of the caliper to protect the seals.

Question2 - If answer above is NO!, then can I remove the pistons and seals and reassemble without replacing parts. The rebuild kits (seals and scrapers) are crazy expensive for these calipers.

As always, Thanks

Gord.

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To get good adhesion for the powder coating, you'll need to strip the existing coating - so you're down to bare metal. That usually requires sandblasting. I would not sandblast a caliper and not follow up with a complete dissassembly for cleaning - that's asking for trouble down the road in my book. And if you do take them apart, you're a fool to not replace the seals.

If you want to spruce them up without taking them apart and rebuilding them, go with high-temp spray paint.
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Originally Posted by Van
To get good adhesion for the powder coating, you'll need to strip the existing coating - so you're down to bare metal. That usually requires sandblasting. I would not sandblast a caliper and not follow up with a complete dissassembly for cleaning - that's asking for trouble down the road in my book. And if you do take them apart, you're a fool to not replace the seals.

If you want to spruce them up without taking them apart and rebuilding them, go with high-temp spray paint.
Ditto, it's a great DIY weekend job.

That being said I have seen guys buy the DIY powder coat kit from harbor freight and cook calipers in the kitchen oven. Though I don't advise it unless you do the complete tear down and rebuild like Van suggests.

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Van for president.....

when i got my new big blacks, i scuffed and cleaned them, then placed them on a cookie sheet and baked them
@ 375 degrees for about 25 minutes.... took them out of the oven and hung them from a wire and slowly sprayed
them with engine paint and about 5 thin coats, baking the paint on over the course of about 15 minutes.... then i
got the heat gun on them got them real good for about an hour.... next, i continued to spray the hot calipers with
engine paint gloss.... after a few thin coats i kept the heat gun going and circled the calipers for about another hour.

i let them dry for about 24 hours, put the porsche stickers on and installed them.

then put some more gloss paint over the stickers.

within a few weeks of normal heat cycling, the engine paint cured hard as a rock. a very satisfying, easy mod. the
brakes have been super-easy to keep clean, and still looking good after 4 years and dozens of thousands of miles.

for my old rear calipers, i just scuffed them with 150 and scrubbed the hard to reach areas with alcohol and steel
wool as best i could... then cleaned them with de-natured alcohol.... taped off the area, around them got the heat
gun and baked on more engine paint and gloss with good results....

powdercoating sounds cool, but i think i found the next best thing.

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I can attest from experience that Van is spot on. I've twice done this without fully prepping the parts, and both times, the powder coat easily chipped off. I had hoped that baking them would be sufficient, but it wasn't. On the calipers, I couldn't get a couple of pieces apart, so I wouldn't be able to sufficiently acess all the little places where sand would get, so I didn't sand blast them. On the cam tower, I didn't want to chance getting sand in there wihtout the ability to properly clean it out. Was unfortunatley pressed to get the car ready.
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If you decide to disassemble, I may have a set of scrapers laying around but need to confirm.

I coated a set of S2 calipers using a special mil spec heat dissipating coating (pulls heat away 30% faster than bare aluminum) but didn't need to use the scrapers when I did it. If I can find them we'll work out a cheap price.
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I am about to try powder coating. we just got a new wall over so moved the old one to my shop. I have a blast cabinet, but so far have not bought a powder coat kit. I am considering the dual voltage unit from Eastwood Garage.

regarding blasting. any advice on the kind of blast material to use on calipers? I got some glass bead and about to buy some fine grade walnut shells.

in the past I used high temp caliper paint on the spider intake of my 928. so far it has held up good for several years. it was a bit of a pita to get it clean enough, but worth the effort for good results.

good luck on your project.
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Originally Posted by odurandina
Van for president.....


Car looks good in blue!


Originally Posted by 911tracker85
regarding blasting. any advice on the kind of blast material to use on calipers? I got some glass bead and about to buy some fine grade walnut shells.
I think you'll find that walnut shells are too light-duty - and they might not work so well in a cabinet with a siphon gun. I use a mix of glass beads and aluminum oxide. That works pretty well.
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I stripped the old finish off my calipers using paint stripper. Then I tapped off the areas I didn't want to paint and did about 6 coats of VHT spray paint. Cured them in the oven in between each coat. Finished it off with three coats of clear. They look pretty good and I give them a 9/10. Problem was I had only tapped off the brake line hole and everytime I would put them in the oven some brake oil would creep out and ruin the paint in some places. Next time I would find a way to plug that hole (heard that a golf tee fits nicely). Final touch, I sanded the Porsche script to a nice shine with 220 grit. They look ten times better then before.... Went from black o red while I was at it. Pics coming up!
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Here are pics of my calipers.
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Ryan, thats what I'm after!! F1, let me know what you come up with, I'm interested!



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