Neat 944/968 Article
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I usually read this site about car news. Today they have a write up about our beloved P-car. Enjoy!
http://carbuzz.com/news/2012/11/7/Th...4-968-7711500/
http://carbuzz.com/news/2012/11/7/Th...4-968-7711500/
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nice. that grey 944 n/a looks like its using a RoW 924 front bumper.
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Here's another link to some old articles, in case some of you haven't seen these yet.
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Road%20Tests.htm
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Road%20Tests.htm
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i dont understand why they keep bashing the 924...purrists were starving by the time the 924 hit the marked(crysis) and aldough the so called purrists had no money to drive their 911s to the market and back they yapped about the 924 origins.
The article is seazoned with bull****..for example...944 was fully built by porsche...and the 924 was not? why is it called porsche then? some parts of the 924 had vw/audi numbers on them, but so do some parts of the 944 and the 911. To be specific each 924 turbo which is still the 924 was HAND BUILT AND ASSEMBLED BY PORSCHE.
The simple fact is that the 924 was loved and bought in europe and the 924 alone saved the company from bankruptcy.
The purrists were only barking about the 924 because it was priced low and they were already starving poor and they feared that the 924 will lower the value of their 911s.
That is understandable..but the 924..as the 914 was and still is a cheap sporty car that is also usefull, well balanced and reliable...thats why there still are TODAY available New Old Stock parts on the 2L engines and the 924 in general.
As a comparison..."purrists" barked for years about the boxster being weeak and all that crap for the same reason they did on the 914 and 924....now however the boxster became more expensive and all of a sudden the scene has gone quiet.
In the end the 924/44/68 were the same thing, only adjusted to the economic period they were sold in and ofcourse the technology available.
Do you guys think that the 944 would have gotten the 2.5L engine if the crysis would have lasted for 5-6 more years back then?
on the other hand, i agree the 944 S2 is the best of the bunch...i'd very much like to own and drive one one day.
The article is seazoned with bull****..for example...944 was fully built by porsche...and the 924 was not? why is it called porsche then? some parts of the 924 had vw/audi numbers on them, but so do some parts of the 944 and the 911. To be specific each 924 turbo which is still the 924 was HAND BUILT AND ASSEMBLED BY PORSCHE.
The simple fact is that the 924 was loved and bought in europe and the 924 alone saved the company from bankruptcy.
The purrists were only barking about the 924 because it was priced low and they were already starving poor and they feared that the 924 will lower the value of their 911s.
That is understandable..but the 924..as the 914 was and still is a cheap sporty car that is also usefull, well balanced and reliable...thats why there still are TODAY available New Old Stock parts on the 2L engines and the 924 in general.
As a comparison..."purrists" barked for years about the boxster being weeak and all that crap for the same reason they did on the 914 and 924....now however the boxster became more expensive and all of a sudden the scene has gone quiet.
In the end the 924/44/68 were the same thing, only adjusted to the economic period they were sold in and ofcourse the technology available.
Do you guys think that the 944 would have gotten the 2.5L engine if the crysis would have lasted for 5-6 more years back then?
on the other hand, i agree the 944 S2 is the best of the bunch...i'd very much like to own and drive one one day.
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Morghen,
I think the biggest problem with the 924's legacy is that the US cars were underpowered and had the pimple like side markers. Had it been delivered with 125hp and no side markers to the US market it would have gotten a much better reception.
I think the biggest problem with the 924's legacy is that the US cars were underpowered and had the pimple like side markers. Had it been delivered with 125hp and no side markers to the US market it would have gotten a much better reception.
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I agree with 931GT that the real issue with the 924 was/is that it was underpowered. Interestingly, the early Boxsters weren't highly powered and that's a common complaint many have with it today.
Look at 912s, until recently they weren't all that desirable nor did they have much in the way of a positive reputation. Only recently have they all of the sudden become desirable cars. Why, I suspect because the price of early 911s are getting so high and their are few good 912 examples left.
I firmly believe that at a point in the not to far future the 924 Turbo, 944 Turbo, 944 S2 and 968 will move up to become more desirable. Why, their are fewer and fewer good examples, they have tremendous performance, aren't highly priced and "investment" money for older models is always looking for the next investment.
Look at 912s, until recently they weren't all that desirable nor did they have much in the way of a positive reputation. Only recently have they all of the sudden become desirable cars. Why, I suspect because the price of early 911s are getting so high and their are few good 912 examples left.
I firmly believe that at a point in the not to far future the 924 Turbo, 944 Turbo, 944 S2 and 968 will move up to become more desirable. Why, their are fewer and fewer good examples, they have tremendous performance, aren't highly priced and "investment" money for older models is always looking for the next investment.
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good quick read. it's odd that they mentioned the 2.7L 944 that lasted only 6 months of production but left out the s2 that lasted 3yrs, and arguably is the best of the bunch
i wish i could find a 944 turbo in that burgundy, but not with a burgundy interior.
i wish i could find a 944 turbo in that burgundy, but not with a burgundy interior.
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Purists will still act that way no matter what (they still scoff at the 944), but the whole rest of the world likes the 944. The 924 in America drew the short straw.
Especially since the 944 in America was such a better car, from most people's perspectives. Personally, I love the 924 and I want one, but I'd shave the markers, moldings, and bumpers.
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Here's another link to some old articles, in case some of you haven't seen these yet.
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Road%20Tests.htm
http://www.cannell.co.uk/Road%20Tests.htm
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There are about as many '89s as there are '83s, which is about 5500 I believe.
The 944 NA switched to the new block design (with bigger bore) when the block was first introduced in 1989. The larger bore results in 2.7L... The 3.0L 944S2 has this bigger bore + longer stroke crankshaft.
WHY the 951 did not also go to 2.7L, keeps me up some nights. Mainly for the stronger block design, but the larger bore (and larger intake valve) are nice too. And I'm sure Porsche could have saved money by casting only 1 type of block for all 944s instead of 2 kinds.
The 944 NA switched to the new block design (with bigger bore) when the block was first introduced in 1989. The larger bore results in 2.7L... The 3.0L 944S2 has this bigger bore + longer stroke crankshaft.
WHY the 951 did not also go to 2.7L, keeps me up some nights. Mainly for the stronger block design, but the larger bore (and larger intake valve) are nice too. And I'm sure Porsche could have saved money by casting only 1 type of block for all 944s instead of 2 kinds.