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Old 08-04-2012, 10:14 AM
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Question Big wheel fitment for late offset 944/951

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What the highest front offset for late offset 944s, 951s?

Can your fronts handle 8.5" ET65 (w/235s or 245s)?

So how about ftting 10" ET50 (w/265s or 275s) to the rears?

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Hello Jim,

I’ve not experimented with high offsets to date.

With the wheel in question, I would bet yes with either tire, but can only give reference from a stock ’89 turbo. That wheel would extend 19mm both inward and outward from the turbo CS 8”et65 wheel.
Plug the numbers from your wheel into this page, Wheel Offset Calculator, and measure to be sure.

Just remembered I do use the rear CS wheel, 9” et60, up front with 245/45-16 tires on track. Every car is different clearance wise. These wheels fit fine with a bit more camber on my car.

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Originally Posted by 951Saga
... the turbo CS 8”et65 wheel.
... rear CS wheel, 9” et60...
I didn't know these wheels existed for the 944 etc. Great info, thank you!

The 9" CS would be about the same as mine, except it sticks out another 11mm. So that bodes well.
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So how about ftting 10" ET50 (w/265s or 275s) to the rears?
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The rears would be very close and most likely not clear without rolling the quarter lip.

I use an 18x11" et63 rear wheel that just clears the factory rolled lips, ('88 turbo S and '89 turbo quarter wheel arches were stamped flat), at stock camber.

Your wheel is 1mm further out from mine. If the wheels are worth the effort, have at it and post photos too.

Look this thread over for reference… The Official 924/44/68 Wheel Thread.
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8.5" wheels in the front are impossible without narrower struts (i.e. adjustable coilovers) or flared fenders. It will hit one, the other, or both.

In the rear a 10" with a 275 will fit, however watch out for the Goodyear Eagle RS DOT 275 track tires. Great tire, but their "275" is closer to a 295.

A 10" wheel with a 275 will fit without rolled fenders, but you need to nail the offset. I don't know what the best offset is. And sometimes it can be different either side of the car - the suspension isn't centered in the chassis.

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast
8.5" wheels in the front are impossible without narrower struts (i.e. adjustable coilovers) or flared fenders. It will hit one, the other, or both.
I don't understand. 951saga wrote he uses 9” et60, up front with 245/45-16 tires on track.
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Originally Posted by Jadz928
I don't understand. 951saga wrote he uses 9” et60, up front with 245/45-16 tires on track.
I should have clarified. 951Saga is talking about the wheels on his Turbo S (1989-1991 951's are identical in specification to the 1988 951S), which has the M030 adjustable coilovers from the factory, so maybe they fit on M030 cars. However, cars without M030 (which is most), have the wider spring perches and springs.

Maybe this makes things clearer: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/6890551-post7.html . It can be confusing

BTW, checked out your blog on 928 number one, very cool! With your 928's, I imagine we could hold a reinactment of the 1977 928 Introduction Press Meeting! Wow. A big project on both cars, good luck.

Take care!
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Toast is mostly correct. I am using the M030 struts though I’ve changed to the Paragon 2.5 ID Coil-Over Kit, so factory springs could be an issue. I will throw a 9” wheel on and post some pics later today.
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Originally Posted by FrenchToast
8.5" wheels in the front are impossible without narrower struts (i.e. adjustable coilovers) or flared fenders. It will hit one, the other, or both.

In the rear a 10" with a 275 will fit, however watch out for the Goodyear Eagle RS DOT 275 track tires. Great tire, but their "275" is closer to a 295.

A 10" wheel with a 275 will fit without rolled fenders, but you need to nail the offset. I don't know what the best offset is. And sometimes it can be different either side of the car - the suspension isn't centered in the chassis.

Take care!
I don't think this is correct. The wheels i just mounted on my car (with bone stock 87 n/a suspension) are 8.5 inches wide in the front, 10 inches in the rear. I am running a narrow tire in the front (225/40-18), but they fit without ANY rubbing. If i lowered the car i would probably need to run some negative camber to tuck it in the fender a little and smaller diameter springs/struts. I'm looking for offsets right now.

edit: can't see offsets without lifting car or removing a wheel, so i'll have to see what i can do. It is possible i have an 18X8 in the front, not sure yet.
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Finally the front 9” CS wheel photos… less than an inch clearance from the M030 strut and 2.5 ID springs. I’d be surprised if the stock turbo or turbo S springs would clear, also would imagine other Listers have tried this too.
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I've got 295/30 ZR 18 11X45et on the rear of my 90 S2 cab, I had to aggressively roll the fenders to get them to fit. I was told that they would never fit. The pics show that to be incorrect.

I am running 295/30 ZR 18 11X45et on the front So I don't have any info to help answer your question about the fronts. I am using 7mm spacers to allow the wheels to work with the front bearing dust caps. The front bearing dust caps are an issue you need to examine when trying to use different wheels on the front.
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Originally Posted by azbanks
I am running 295/30 ZR 18 11X45et on the front .
Congrats on fitting that offset on the back, cab looks great too.

Are you using the early offset front suspension or is this a misprint? That front wheel doesn’t look to be 11” wide.
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AZ Banks, thanks for that information. I just bought some 295 Conti Sport 2's today for my ET54 18x10's, now I don't feel so bad.
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Originally Posted by azbanks
I've got 295/30 ZR 18 11X45et on the rear of my 90 S2 cab, I had to aggressively roll the fenders to get them to fit. I was told that they would never fit. The pics show that to be incorrect.

I am running 295/30 ZR 18 11X45et on the front So I don't have any info to help answer your question about the fronts. I am using 7mm spacers to allow the wheels to work with the front bearing dust caps. The front bearing dust caps are an issue you need to examine when trying to use different wheels on the front.
thats great, but it needs more low !


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