For those with more $$ than brains....
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the S2 cab would easily get 25-30k in Australia.
The fact is with those prices are these cars where probably bought brand new and not driven much at all. i'm sure collectors would pay!
The fact is with those prices are these cars where probably bought brand new and not driven much at all. i'm sure collectors would pay!
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I found another link to these cars, and reading up on them, they are indeed all very special cars. The 944 turbo cup car has had a ground up restoration, by Rennsport Porsche of Louisiana. The 968 street was built by the same ppl(Rennsport Porsche of Louisiana) as a road going copy of the prototype 968 RS turbo the owner already owned, that is also in this auction. I would love the 935. It's the only 76 in private hands. Anyway link here it makes for interesting reading. There is not one car there I wouldn't love to own
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Thanks for that link. I had seen something on these cars before and that is why I said I would be a bidder for the Turbo Cup, at least after I insepcted the car and the work.
Nothing against anybody here, nor the OP of the thread, but when you see the good cars from guys that really know them, I dont think that with rare exceptions are you likley going to be buying or bidding on junk. But a certain mindset can take over. It seems to be more on these cars than say a 930. Many 930's are $50,000, 60,000 and more without too much of the "it is not worth it" attached to them. On a really really bad day, none of them are "worth" anything. They are just steel, and rubber, and parts that move and cost you to own.
While everybody has their value opinion, and the amount they can and will spend, our 944's and 951's get a bit more of that bad rap and mind set too.
During the big car show here in October, that I was really fortunate to win the import sport class with my 951, any number of guys would say " Wow, that is a nice car, ... for a 944" or whatever. Then they ask how much it might cost. I generally deflect that question ( The actual owners of cars that have a LOT of work in them dont seem to ever ask you how much you have in a car, have you ever noticed. They know that last 10 % can really cost you, much less all the other time and work.)
Anyway they generally say something like " I can get one of these all topped out for $5,000 " or whatever. Then they ask what I think . I say call me when it happens , knowing I have two times that and more in just Porsche parts alone in mine.
Nothing against anybody here, nor the OP of the thread, but when you see the good cars from guys that really know them, I dont think that with rare exceptions are you likley going to be buying or bidding on junk. But a certain mindset can take over. It seems to be more on these cars than say a 930. Many 930's are $50,000, 60,000 and more without too much of the "it is not worth it" attached to them. On a really really bad day, none of them are "worth" anything. They are just steel, and rubber, and parts that move and cost you to own.
While everybody has their value opinion, and the amount they can and will spend, our 944's and 951's get a bit more of that bad rap and mind set too.
During the big car show here in October, that I was really fortunate to win the import sport class with my 951, any number of guys would say " Wow, that is a nice car, ... for a 944" or whatever. Then they ask how much it might cost. I generally deflect that question ( The actual owners of cars that have a LOT of work in them dont seem to ever ask you how much you have in a car, have you ever noticed. They know that last 10 % can really cost you, much less all the other time and work.)
Anyway they generally say something like " I can get one of these all topped out for $5,000 " or whatever. Then they ask what I think . I say call me when it happens , knowing I have two times that and more in just Porsche parts alone in mine.
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Attitudes down here are a little different, as even the *lowly* 944 is a rare and somewhat desired car and that's reflected in the prices locally delivered cars go for. They also tend to be well cared for(mostly), so I have always been shocked by the low prices these cars are traded for stateside but clearly the sheer number of them and how many are treated has affected what they sell for.
These auction cars are very different though as they are all unique and IMO highly desirable. Texas good luck with your bidding and I hope for your sake that particular car doesn't have too much interest
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These auction cars are very different though as they are all unique and IMO highly desirable. Texas good luck with your bidding and I hope for your sake that particular car doesn't have too much interest
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I am unlikely to be a bidder on that car as much as I do like it. Because I have the 951 and because when I get a new shop with a lift I am looking for a 930 or an older 911 to stable up with it. Well I jumped the gun, because I am already looking .
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Update on the auction-ending prices for the collection...
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/por...2-15?imageNo=0
Thought some of you might want to see these!
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/por...2-15?imageNo=0
Thought some of you might want to see these!
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While I admidt to being completely off on the selling price of the 968 Turbo RS (I still think it was high as you could build that car and more for that kind of $$ and it has no significant provenance) the other prices, like $82.5k for an 88 951S, even a Silver Rose model is abso-f'ing-lutley rediculous and clearly (IMO) demonstrates a more $$ than knowledge buyer. That's just a silly amount for that car no matter the condition/mileage.
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While I admidt to being completely off on the selling price of the 968 Turbo RS (I still think it was high as you could build that car and more for that kind of $$ and it has no significant provenance) the other prices, like $82.5k for an 88 951S, even a Silver Rose model is abso-f'ing-lutley rediculous and clearly (IMO) demonstrates a more $$ than knowledge buyer. That's just a silly amount for that car no matter the condition/mileage.
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I wonder if I can use that for valuation for insurance purposes
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LeMans history? Yes, it started the race but didn't finish it and had no major driver in it's driver line-up. IMO that is BARELY LeMans history. ;-)
While I'm the first to admit I would LOVE to have/create the street version of this car for my daily driver there's really nothing about it that impresses me. It's race history is really minimal and it has no history of a "Hurley Heywood" or similar ever being behind the wheel.
Sorry, I'm just a cheap-*** cynic.... ;-)
While I'm the first to admit I would LOVE to have/create the street version of this car for my daily driver there's really nothing about it that impresses me. It's race history is really minimal and it has no history of a "Hurley Heywood" or similar ever being behind the wheel.
Sorry, I'm just a cheap-*** cynic.... ;-)
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LeMans history? Yes, it started the race but didn't finish it and had no major driver in it's driver line-up. IMO that is BARELY LeMans history. ;-)
While I'm the first to admit I would LOVE to have/create the street version of this car for my daily driver there's really nothing about it that impresses me. It's race history is really minimal and it has no history of a "Hurley Heywood" or similar ever being behind the wheel.
Sorry, I'm just a cheap-*** cynic.... ;-)
While I'm the first to admit I would LOVE to have/create the street version of this car for my daily driver there's really nothing about it that impresses me. It's race history is really minimal and it has no history of a "Hurley Heywood" or similar ever being behind the wheel.
Sorry, I'm just a cheap-*** cynic.... ;-)
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These cars would be worth more if more people treated them that way.
ThEy suffer from bad attitude more than anything. Funny, because at one point not too long a go 356 were in the same boat.
ThEy suffer from bad attitude more than anything. Funny, because at one point not too long a go 356 were in the same boat.
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I grew up in the backs of 911s and 912s. My father was a fanatic for "the maestro" (Harry Pellow) and we had all the books and VHS tapes. The ABCs and 123s of 356 and 912 engines was bed time reading for my brother and I. 356 - keep the faith. Like you said, they weren't real Porsches either only 20 years ago. Perhaps we should say 944 keep the faith.