How quick does a rod bearing fail?
#16
Race Director
Really given the nature of our engines I am not sure how the accusump would help. Once you lose pressure you are done. Most guys don't spin bearings on low oil pressure. They do it on normal oil pressure.
#17
Race Director
I use a temp sensor in my drain plug and my highest temps are 260 oil. Never as high as 280. I run a turbo oil cooler. I run in some hot conditions of over 100F, but don't run 24 hrs. The other thing I heard on these motors was to never run enduros. ... How often do you check the oil during an event? These cars can burn oil and after 3 hrs of racing you could be rather low.
#18
Rainman
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Curious, what RPM do you guys run your Spec cars to? Peak power is 5500-5800 or thereabouts, any real point going into the 6000s unless you're going for speed in gear?
Considering putting the rev limit of my motor at 6000 when the supercharger goes on in coming months for blower longevity.
Considering putting the rev limit of my motor at 6000 when the supercharger goes on in coming months for blower longevity.
#19
Race Director
Curious, what RPM do you guys run your Spec cars to? Peak power is 5500-5800 or thereabouts, any real point going into the 6000s unless you're going for speed in gear?
Considering putting the rev limit of my motor at 6000 when the supercharger goes on in coming months for blower longevity.
Considering putting the rev limit of my motor at 6000 when the supercharger goes on in coming months for blower longevity.
6000 RPM for most shifts, but up to 6200 rpm whne I am really ringing out. Sure you lose power that high, but there is still more power to ground at 6200 rpm in 3rd than 4000 in 4th for example. I have seen this side by side when racing wheret the guy in front shifts and you stay on it for 200 more rpm and close a little bit. Most noticeable in 4th to 5th shift even with shorer .829 5th gear.
#20
Drifting
Thread Starter
Since we are running endurance races we generally shift around 5500.
We'll push it to maybe 5800-6000 a times.
we check the oil generally every other fuel change -- ~4 hours.
We're planning to run a larger oil cooler this year -- just trying to figure out where to put it
and whether it is active (fan) or passive..
Contact is a concern as occasionally there is rubbing during our racing :-(
Endurance races can be anywhere from back to back 7 hour days to a full 24 hours.
Mike
We'll push it to maybe 5800-6000 a times.
we check the oil generally every other fuel change -- ~4 hours.
We're planning to run a larger oil cooler this year -- just trying to figure out where to put it
and whether it is active (fan) or passive..
Contact is a concern as occasionally there is rubbing during our racing :-(
Endurance races can be anywhere from back to back 7 hour days to a full 24 hours.
Mike
#21
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Mike txhokie4life,
Had a question about the rod bearings you pulled from your engine a few responses back. Answer if you can. You may not have an oiling problem at all.
Thanks,
MM
Had a question about the rod bearings you pulled from your engine a few responses back. Answer if you can. You may not have an oiling problem at all.
Thanks,
MM
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Failing rod bearings is well known in the 928 community. Many good things has been said here but the main cause is the factory Glyco rod bearing which is way, way too soft. For my 6,0 litre having a GTS crank and factory rods I will use the Clevite high performance Nascar rod bearings CB-1628HX. These bearings will also fit the 944 and 968.
Ake
Ake
#23
http://www.race-mart.com/Clevite-CLE-CB-1628HX.html
each for $20 bucks?
Last edited by carlege; 01-10-2012 at 12:05 PM. Reason: Correction
#24
Race Director
Really? for a Stock 944/951 and 968?
http://www.race-mart.com/Clevite-CLE-CB-1628HX.html
Set of 6 for $20 bucks?
http://www.race-mart.com/Clevite-CLE-CB-1628HX.html
Set of 6 for $20 bucks?
#29
This store looks likes it's $20 for a set of 6:
http://thmotorsports.com/clevite_77/.../i-463692.aspx
http://thmotorsports.com/clevite_77/.../i-463692.aspx
Yeah they fooled me too. But if what they say about the quality being better. then at the price its worth a shot.