Need a mechanic in the southeast!- i want to turbo my NA!
09-15-2011, 01:00 AM
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09-15-2011, 12:51 PM
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Most likely it would be cheaper & easier to sell your 968 and to buy a 951.
Wonder which one (951 or 968) has currently the higher market value (adjusted for age, condition, and mileage)?
MN
Wonder which one (951 or 968) has currently the higher market value (adjusted for age, condition, and mileage)?
MN
09-15-2011, 01:34 PM
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Simmilar condition and mileage, I would venture a guess and say the 968 would bring more money.. but it really would depend on how long as a seller you would be willing to wait for a buyer / how much "marketing" of the car you do!
09-15-2011, 03:42 PM
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Just to ballance out the "turbo the 3L" camp.. not that I oppose turbo 3L 16V variocam motors.. they just arent cheap, nor should they just be slapped together...
Lets take into account the costs associated with this type of venture..
assuming a GOOD 3L to start from (clean cylinder walls, good base engine)
You would need:
A stand alone EMS.. ~$1K or so.. or some MAJOR tuning of the factory EMS to accoount for boost that was never meant to be there...
new pistons ~$1K
new intake ~$1.5K
engine gasket set ~$500
new headers / crossover / turbo back exhaust ~$2K (or more depending on options...)
that gets you the parts to begin this type of journey, taking into account LOW boost... no labor or head work taken into account.. nor cam swaps to allow tuning of each cam
should you decide to go the sleeve route, plan on adding ~$2.5K or more
then there are incidentals such as clutch to handle the increased power, intercooler, pipes, and such..
easy to top $15K without going exotic, for what could be done MUCH cheaper ($2-3K done) using 2.5L turbo parts... but you would end up with a one of a kind monster... it is just a hard sell for MOST people to throw another $15-20K at a car that on a good day is worth $20K to begin with.. especially when the end result is ~$30K into a car that will still be given a run for it's money by a 30K 996TT
Lets take into account the costs associated with this type of venture..
assuming a GOOD 3L to start from (clean cylinder walls, good base engine)
You would need:
A stand alone EMS.. ~$1K or so.. or some MAJOR tuning of the factory EMS to accoount for boost that was never meant to be there...
new pistons ~$1K
new intake ~$1.5K
engine gasket set ~$500
new headers / crossover / turbo back exhaust ~$2K (or more depending on options...)
that gets you the parts to begin this type of journey, taking into account LOW boost... no labor or head work taken into account.. nor cam swaps to allow tuning of each cam
should you decide to go the sleeve route, plan on adding ~$2.5K or more
then there are incidentals such as clutch to handle the increased power, intercooler, pipes, and such..
easy to top $15K without going exotic, for what could be done MUCH cheaper ($2-3K done) using 2.5L turbo parts... but you would end up with a one of a kind monster... it is just a hard sell for MOST people to throw another $15-20K at a car that on a good day is worth $20K to begin with.. especially when the end result is ~$30K into a car that will still be given a run for it's money by a 30K 996TT
09-15-2011, 04:03 PM
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Just to ballance out the "turbo the 3L" camp.. not that I oppose turbo 3L 16V variocam motors.. they just arent cheap, nor should they just be slapped together...
Lets take into account the costs associated with this type of venture..
assuming a GOOD 3L to start from (clean cylinder walls, good base engine)
You would need:
A stand alone EMS.. ~$1K or so.. or some MAJOR tuning of the factory EMS to accoount for boost that was never meant to be there...
new pistons ~$1K
new intake ~$1.5K
engine gasket set ~$500
new headers / crossover / turbo back exhaust ~$2K (or more depending on options...)
that gets you the parts to begin this type of journey, taking into account LOW boost... no labor or head work taken into account.. nor cam swaps to allow tuning of each cam
should you decide to go the sleeve route, plan on adding ~$2.5K or more
then there are incidentals such as clutch to handle the increased power, intercooler, pipes, and such..
easy to top $15K without going exotic, for what could be done MUCH cheaper ($2-3K done) using 2.5L turbo parts... but you would end up with a one of a kind monster... it is just a hard sell for MOST people to throw another $15-20K at a car that on a good day is worth $20K to begin with.. especially when the end result is ~$30K into a car that will still be given a run for it's money by a 30K 996TT
Lets take into account the costs associated with this type of venture..
assuming a GOOD 3L to start from (clean cylinder walls, good base engine)
You would need:
A stand alone EMS.. ~$1K or so.. or some MAJOR tuning of the factory EMS to accoount for boost that was never meant to be there...
new pistons ~$1K
new intake ~$1.5K
engine gasket set ~$500
new headers / crossover / turbo back exhaust ~$2K (or more depending on options...)
that gets you the parts to begin this type of journey, taking into account LOW boost... no labor or head work taken into account.. nor cam swaps to allow tuning of each cam
should you decide to go the sleeve route, plan on adding ~$2.5K or more
then there are incidentals such as clutch to handle the increased power, intercooler, pipes, and such..
easy to top $15K without going exotic, for what could be done MUCH cheaper ($2-3K done) using 2.5L turbo parts... but you would end up with a one of a kind monster... it is just a hard sell for MOST people to throw another $15-20K at a car that on a good day is worth $20K to begin with.. especially when the end result is ~$30K into a car that will still be given a run for it's money by a 30K 996TT
09-15-2011, 04:17 PM
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Just to ballance out the "turbo the 3L" camp.. not that I oppose turbo 3L 16V variocam motors.. they just arent cheap, nor should they just be slapped together...
Lets take into account the costs associated with this type of venture..
assuming a GOOD 3L to start from (clean cylinder walls, good base engine)
You would need:
A stand alone EMS.. ~$1K or so.. or some MAJOR tuning of the factory EMS to accoount for boost that was never meant to be there...
new pistons ~$1K
new intake ~$1.5K
engine gasket set ~$500
new headers / crossover / turbo back exhaust ~$2K (or more depending on options...)
that gets you the parts to begin this type of journey, taking into account LOW boost... no labor or head work taken into account.. nor cam swaps to allow tuning of each cam
should you decide to go the sleeve route, plan on adding ~$2.5K or more
then there are incidentals such as clutch to handle the increased power, intercooler, pipes, and such..
easy to top $15K without going exotic, for what could be done MUCH cheaper ($2-3K done) using 2.5L turbo parts... but you would end up with a one of a kind monster... it is just a hard sell for MOST people to throw another $15-20K at a car that on a good day is worth $20K to begin with.. especially when the end result is ~$30K into a car that will still be given a run for it's money by a 30K 996TT
Lets take into account the costs associated with this type of venture..
assuming a GOOD 3L to start from (clean cylinder walls, good base engine)
You would need:
A stand alone EMS.. ~$1K or so.. or some MAJOR tuning of the factory EMS to accoount for boost that was never meant to be there...
new pistons ~$1K
new intake ~$1.5K
engine gasket set ~$500
new headers / crossover / turbo back exhaust ~$2K (or more depending on options...)
that gets you the parts to begin this type of journey, taking into account LOW boost... no labor or head work taken into account.. nor cam swaps to allow tuning of each cam
should you decide to go the sleeve route, plan on adding ~$2.5K or more
then there are incidentals such as clutch to handle the increased power, intercooler, pipes, and such..
easy to top $15K without going exotic, for what could be done MUCH cheaper ($2-3K done) using 2.5L turbo parts... but you would end up with a one of a kind monster... it is just a hard sell for MOST people to throw another $15-20K at a car that on a good day is worth $20K to begin with.. especially when the end result is ~$30K into a car that will still be given a run for it's money by a 30K 996TT
Looking at all the options of getting 120hp more into the 968, the 928motorsport supercharger getting ever more attractive.
MN
Last edited by MN; 09-15-2011 at 04:43 PM.
09-16-2011, 12:51 AM
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its my understanding that there are three main options for a supercharger from a vendor: speed force racing which is the most powerful but also the most expensive and you have to lose the a/c, 928motorsports which is the middle of the road in terms of power and price and you can keep your a/c, and finally design1 which is the cheapest but the least powerful and you keep the a/c... there are also a few running around with huntley and some others from older kits and of course diy options...