Early 80's models: what's more reliable, the 944 or the 911?
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I have an '83 944 that I was toying with the idea of trading up to an '84 911. I was told that the 944 is far more reliable than a similar year 911. Of course assuming care, regular maintenance, driving, etc. being the same
What do you think?
What do you think?
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i was looking for a used 911 for a while. One thing I found was there seems to be a lot to go wrong with the 911 that can be $$$ I decided to go with a 951 as my first Porsche. So far it seems easy to work on and parts/advise seem to be easy to find. That being said either can break the bank.
I will still get a 911 one day but at this time the 951 was the better choice.
I will still get a 911 one day but at this time the 951 was the better choice.
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Very subjective but my take....The 911 is more interesting, more valuable and more rare but in (my) head to head for compare of reliability, loses to the 944 (which is not particularly great - for reliability). I have both cars and the frequent 911 valve adjustments are probably the only p-car maintenance job that I dread. YMMV...Bruce
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Very subjective but my take....The 911 is more interesting, more valuable and more rare but in (my) head to head for compare of reliability, loses to the 944 (which is not particularly great - for reliability). I have both cars and the frequent 911 valve adjustments are probably the only p-car maintenance job that I dread. YMMV...Bruce
The 911 (IMO) was never really a good car until the 90's. It never handled well. Its difficult to work on. Requires a LOT more maintenance ($$). It was so bad at one point, the 928 was supposed to replace it.
The 944 was a good car right out of the box. It was the Porsche for everyman, but not only for the price. Its easy to work on. Low maintenance, for the era it was built. You didn't need to be a professional race driver to drive it fast.
I you care more about how others think of you, get the 911 (There are enthusiasts that like the 911 for what it is, but not many
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ask a bunch of 944 nutswingers which is better and the answer will be 944
ask a bunch of 911 nutswingers which is better and the answer will be 911
ask the market which is better - compare the resale of a decent mid 80s 944 to its msrp and do the same with the 911. then decide which is better.
So why does a late 80s 911 sell for more than an eary 90s if the 90s were so much better? bulletproof 911s are 78-89 SCs and Carreras. That's not my opinion. That's what every clown witha pen writes.
ask a bunch of 911 nutswingers which is better and the answer will be 911
ask the market which is better - compare the resale of a decent mid 80s 944 to its msrp and do the same with the 911. then decide which is better.
So why does a late 80s 911 sell for more than an eary 90s if the 90s were so much better? bulletproof 911s are 78-89 SCs and Carreras. That's not my opinion. That's what every clown witha pen writes.
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drive a 944 cab with the roof down on your favorite road. then drive a 911 cab with the roof down, and tell me which one you like better.
i dont even like convertibles but damn, a certain veneziablau 3.2 911 changed my life forever, and i want one.
my 944 is my go-kart. a 911 will be my PORSHAAA
i dont even like convertibles but damn, a certain veneziablau 3.2 911 changed my life forever, and i want one.
my 944 is my go-kart. a 911 will be my PORSHAAA
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drive a 944 cab with the roof down on your favorite road. then drive a 911 cab with the roof down, and tell me which one you like better.
i dont even like convertibles but damn, a certain veneziablau 3.2 911 changed my life forever, and i want one.
my 944 is my go-kart. a 911 will be my PORSHAAA
i dont even like convertibles but damn, a certain veneziablau 3.2 911 changed my life forever, and i want one.
my 944 is my go-kart. a 911 will be my PORSHAAA
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i would probably trade my firstborn child for a widebody 930, even if it did kill me eventually
floor it...lag, lag lag lag lag lag lag lag lag little bit o whistle lag lag louder louder lag lag BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH into a tree
floor it...lag, lag lag lag lag lag lag lag lag little bit o whistle lag lag louder louder lag lag BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH into a tree
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i would probably trade my firstborn child for a widebody 930, even if it did kill me eventually
floor it...lag, lag lag lag lag lag lag lag lag little bit o whistle lag lag louder louder lag lag BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH backwards into a tree
floor it...lag, lag lag lag lag lag lag lag lag little bit o whistle lag lag louder louder lag lag BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH backwards into a tree
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Here is Spencer pissing his pants in first gear.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8lDnLKAXc
That wasn't his first ride in my car, but ya, it was his last.
OP, I would suggest that this question be posted in the 911 forum where guys that own the cars and have an educated opinion reside. If I wanted to know about the '44 I'd ask here.
As for me and my experience... In 4-1/2 years I haven't done anything that I had to do other than replace the brake light switches at something like $9.00 each. Lot's that I wanted to do that was super simple and far less expensive to do than I thought it was going to be. Not a care in the world owning this car. Just keep in the back of your head that ever 911 is a $20,000 car no mater the purchase price. It's gonna cost you at least that, no matter.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8lDnLKAXc
That wasn't his first ride in my car, but ya, it was his last.
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OP, I would suggest that this question be posted in the 911 forum where guys that own the cars and have an educated opinion reside. If I wanted to know about the '44 I'd ask here.
As for me and my experience... In 4-1/2 years I haven't done anything that I had to do other than replace the brake light switches at something like $9.00 each. Lot's that I wanted to do that was super simple and far less expensive to do than I thought it was going to be. Not a care in the world owning this car. Just keep in the back of your head that ever 911 is a $20,000 car no mater the purchase price. It's gonna cost you at least that, no matter.
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Here is Spencer pissing his pants in first gear.
![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8lDnLKAXc
That wasn't his first ride in my car, but ya, it was his last.
OP, I would suggest that this question be posted in the 911 forum where guys that own the cars and have an educated opinion reside. If I wanted to know about the '44 I'd ask here.
As for me and my experience... In 4-1/2 years I haven't done anything that I had to do other than replace the brake light switches at something like $9.00 each. Lot's that I wanted to do that was super simple and far less expensive to do than I thought it was going to be. Not a care in the world owning this car. Just keep in the back of your head that ever 911 is a $20,000 car no mater the purchase price. It's gonna cost you at least that, no matter.
![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8lDnLKAXc
That wasn't his first ride in my car, but ya, it was his last.
![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
OP, I would suggest that this question be posted in the 911 forum where guys that own the cars and have an educated opinion reside. If I wanted to know about the '44 I'd ask here.
As for me and my experience... In 4-1/2 years I haven't done anything that I had to do other than replace the brake light switches at something like $9.00 each. Lot's that I wanted to do that was super simple and far less expensive to do than I thought it was going to be. Not a care in the world owning this car. Just keep in the back of your head that ever 911 is a $20,000 car no mater the purchase price. It's gonna cost you at least that, no matter.
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Bear in mind that the best way to solve the 80's Porsche realibility problems is to own at least two or more of them. For instance, I have two 87 944's and the combined reliability is great - redundancy is what we call it in the space business. It did suck when one of them had a failed SACHs clutch and the other one had a blown transaxel but with effort, both were running great, until that is I put one into a tire wall at Summit Point (gently and in the rain) and that mine friend is where redundancy comes in.