sbolen113

So I was poking around on the forum today and I noticed someone had some questions about the pricing on a 944 turbo they were looking at. This gave me an idea. Why not start a thread where rennlisters can post how much they bought/sold their car for, with some more details of course. This could help future buyers and sellers get a ball park estimate on what the market is doing as well as give some info into how much luck others have had with 944's similar to theirs! I'll start.
-- I just sold my '87 944 n/a for $5,500. It had 119,900 on the clock and I bought it with 106,000. Shortly after which I rebuilt the head..we all know what that means..I put corbeau racing seats, k40 radar detector, weltmeister throttle cam, and a Bursch header with full exhaust on it. I also sold two early offset rims with no tires that needed to be reconditioned for $50 a piece bringing the grand total to $5,600. Paint was good but showing its age and the dash was just barely starting to crack in two spots. I believe I got a bit above the market for an n/a with that mileage. I miss the hell out if it thats for sure. It was my first car when I was 17!

divil

I like this idea!

So I'll repeat the jist of what I posted in that thread about my recent purchase:

I paid $10,700 for a 1989 951. It's mechanically great, and the body and paintwork are flawless (paint is new but like a factory finish). Interior is clean and well preserved - no tears, nothing broken etc. Also 100% stock, no mods whatsoever. 165K miles. 1 owner since 1990, all service history available.

racer

imho, there are so many possible variables that tracking becomes "nice" but is a hard point to validate. Some folks are distinct bargain hunters.. others see a 10K price and don't flinch. imho, ALL 944s are $10K cars.. spend it upfront on a cream puff or spend it over 1-2 years rebuilding the "project" car or simply having to perform typical maintenance at shop labor rates. Then there is the challenge of a 951 in poor condition vs a "early" 8v in excellent condition vs an "S" in average condition.

To keep on point ... I paid above average market price for what I thought was a 944 in above average condition with below average miles with recent (ie, expensive work) already performed.

sbolen113

racer, very good point. It definitely depends on what the buyer truly wants. A 951 at $6-8k would have some flaws such as paint/interior and have higher mileage, where as for that price you can pick up a well above average n/a whether early or late model. This is exactly what I hope this thread can help people with! As an example, I paid $4,700 for my '87 n/a with an extra set of wheels which was probably pretty on par with the condition of the car the market price at that time. I then turned around and sold it for $5,600 (including the extra two wheels i said early). But it did have ALL paperwork of any and all work completed and a few upgrades. For that money the guy probably could have found a 951 needing a small amount of tlc. Definitely person preference. divil, thats a great example of what we're talking about. Where some people may have seen that price as a little high for that mileage, those that really know 944's understand the value of solid documented history and only 1 owner. I also agree that in almost any situation with any model of 944, $10,000 can go quite quickly. Either on the car itself. upgrades, or maintenance. I'm looking for a Turbo S myself for around that!

mikemyers924s

OR you can go the ridiculously cheap route and buy a 924S!!! lol.
I bought my '87 924S for $1000. The interior is sub par, and the left passenger side has a line of crimped metal where the car was obviously damaged in an accident. It's very much just a project to learn my way around porsches on, but worth every penny. As for the cheap car=expensive maintenance argument...I would have to agree. I bought my car for a grand and have put another 1000 into suspension, brakes and tires. Even with that work it's still not anywhere near where it needs to be...

Personally I'd say $4000 is the magic number for a decent 944 and you can expect to spend another 1-2 thousand on upgrades/maintenance.
-Mike.
Great thread btw!

divil

Here's an '89 Turbo that just sold for over 15K after 41 bids from at least a dozen different people:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_500wt_1184

I saw this earlier today and it was at 11,700.

Mileage is only 52K.

AZ968Cab

There are a couple 88/89 951's on the market now and the prices aren't as crazy as they used to be. I just bought a black on black '87 with 39K original, 2nd owner, garaged and covered except for the rare summer drives and every week startups. It was the exact car I was looking for (ABS/ABs, double black). Happily paid $13,5 and having it delivered enclosed in 2 weeks.

Jadz928

Great idea!
Seems to be a pretty well organized thread already out there for this.
I was sifting through it yesterday.
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...our-944-a.html

joemis

Very true what was stated earlier that you spend the same either way in the end. Even if you do the work yourself these cars can be expensive to maintain.

Bought my 89 944S2 4 years ago for $6,500 with 115k miles, with service records, everything in working order (including A/C and sunroof) and overall 7.5 out of 10 condition. Since then I have spent about $1500 in maintenance (parts, I do the work) - cam chain tensioner, water pump, belts and rollers, and so on to keep the car in good working order.

Joe M.
1989 944S2

SanDiego928

Very interesting. I am toying with the idea of getting a turbo 944. I am currently working on a 1981 928 which I hope will be a DD some day. Cost was 3k and after 4 months of Saturdays and less than 100 dollars in parts (have a parts car) it is going well. I would love to have a 944 that would be a DD and in the 20's for gas mileage. I will keep looking and learning here as well as the 928 forum.

sbolen113

Good luck on the 928 project! A 944 would definitely make a great daily. I had one that I used as a daily for about two years. I agree with the $4,000 average price for a decent n/a model. I would say at that price, maybe a little further to $5k you can find some great 944's with documentation and maybe around 100k on the odometer. Markets change though. I have an '86 n/a with 69k on it that I'm waiting on selling. I was hoping that the market would pick up a bit as the economy started to recover but it seems that it will stay a buyers market for quite a while.

josephm

Seller e-mailed me pics of the dash and option codes. Had all leather seats F-R (nice) but numerous dash cracks (not so nice). I'm starting to think stock 944/951's are a thing of the past and a full interior restoration ($$$$) is the only thing left.

I hope i'm wrong.

Cyberpunky

You guys don't know how lucky you are. I read what you pay for cars and am very envious, and when I here ppl moan about the cost of good cars, well, like I said you don't know how lucky you are. I wish I could get a mint 952 for 15k. Good cars here cost a lot more(an 89 car just sold for $40,000 here), and we don't have the cars being parted out, to buy spares from. I have to source parts from US or UK as they are so rare here, or expensive, that importing them is cheaper.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...3765&silo=1011

peACE

sbolen113

Wow that is crazy expensive. I guess they only imported a couple hundred to Australia so that makes them quite rare. Something at that price here would be like one of the coveted nine 951 cup cars that made it to the states. I have a parts car if you need anything. I've never shipped overseas before but there's a first time for everything. I wonder what shipping a car overseas would cost. If you can find one in Europe or something for $5-10k and ship it for a few thousand maybe it would make more sense than buying one there.

Cyberpunky

Hey Sbolen, they definitely only came here in very limited numbers, and Australian delivery adds a lot of value. European imports arent as valuable here because of the salt used on the roads in many european countries, and so potential for rust. The upside is that the few that were sold here are nearly always well maintained and cared for, so tend to be in great condition. We don't get many of the "beaters" that seem fairly common there, by comparison.
Thanks for the offer of parts and I will take you up on that at some point down the track
peace