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Old 03-02-2011, 03:44 PM
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I am going to a coil-over setup in the rear and need to ditch the torsion bars. Does anyone have or know where there is a write-up or instructions on removing the bars without dropping the whole unit? I have been told you can cut a small hole on each side of the car and slide them out fairly easily. This is a track only car so cutting a hole in the body is no big deal. Any tips or instructions would be appreciated.
Old 03-02-2011, 04:15 PM
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Sorry the carrier has to be dropped.
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Can be done (http://www.elephantracing.com/projec...ngplatediy.htm). Good luck!

Not something I ever want to do again.
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its not too bad to drop the whole assembly anyways...iirc theres like 10 bolts total lol. apply penetrating oil, leverage and four-letter words and it will come out
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I donT really see how it can be done. The carrier must be remved fromthe enf to release the spring plate and in order to dothat you have to lower it from the body.
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To drop the entire assembly there are two bolts and 4 nuts.
Old 03-02-2011, 05:07 PM
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disconnect spring plate from trailing arm. unhook brake line. drop the trailing arm from the carrier. then carrier can be convinced to move enough to get end plate off.

i don't know that it's any simpler than dropping the whole assembly...but that's how i did it.
Old 03-02-2011, 07:41 PM
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I just went through this hellish procedure the last couple of days to install delrin bushings.

To save yourself from dropping the whole torsion bar carrier, I removed all the bolts on one side, and all the bolts but the big one in the side of the car. This one bolt acts as a pivot where you can drop the other side down enough to get the torsion bars out. This doesn't save you too much, but maybe makes it a bit easier getting the assembly back in place. It helps to jack up the assembly by the shock mounts, as this relieves some of the binding on the rubber bushing in the side of the car. You can then easily pry down the one side to get the bearing carrier off.

Getting rid of the torsion bars will save you a lot of time for reassembly, as that seems where I spent most of my time getting those suckers at the right angle.
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There was a write up a while ago where someone cut holes in the body of their car so they didn't have to drop the carrier (I believe the 911 guys do it quite often). But they're not small holes - IIRC, they're at least 4" in diameter.

The early 924 cars had the hole with a plug from the factory.
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hole..what, in the rocker panel? never noticed that on the 924's ive stripped...lol...cool
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I have the elephant racing bushing removal tool, if you want it. Half price plus shipping seem reasonable?
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I couldn't find any pics or write-ups anywhere so here's what I was looking for...

All you have to do is unbolt the shocks and sway bar end links to let the trailing arms droop as much as possible. Then cut through the spring plates about 2 inches from the end. This is pretty thick (about 3/8 of an inch) and will take a few good recip saw blades.



Then drill a 1 1/2 inch hole in the body and the torsion bar will slide right out.



I found some 1 1/2 inch stainless caps at the hardware store to plug the hole in the body and the end of the spring plate to clean things up and keep the chipmunks out.



The entire thing took me about an hour including bolting up the new coilovers. The only drama I had was when the drill bit in the hole saw broke and I gouged the **** out of my paint. Luckily it is a race car and I could care less.
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You should probably look into replacing the spring plate bushings. If they are original (and I bet they are) They have more than likely deformed and are pretty nasty.
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Yeah this summer in the off season I am going to re-bush the entire car. After 25 years in the desert it needs it badly.
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Originally Posted by robstah
For a track car, that might be acceptable, but no way in hell am I drilling holes in the body to be lazy.
Elephant Racing method worked for me. One side at a time, in other words. No need to disconnect brake lines either, in my case.

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