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Old 01-21-2011, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pettybird
you're quite the prophet for someone who doesn't even have a swapped car. do you HAVE to pollute EVERY thread with chevy engines? it's annoying. we get it.
YEAH! CHEVY ENGINES SUCK!

all chevys and fords suck except the corvette and old mustang

has anyone seen this yet?
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...specialty_file

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Old 01-21-2011, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by odurandina
actually quite the contrary, the first upgrade will be the moment he coaxes that crusty old belt into breaking.

the road to nirvana indeed, begins there.
Makes no sense. Its a 924, you break the belt you replace it with a new $20 belt and you're on your way. Its a side of the road repair, its not an interference engine.
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Originally Posted by odurandina
actually quite the contrary, the first upgrade will be the moment he coaxes that crusty old belt into breaking.

the road to nirvana indeed, begins there.
Originally Posted by chrenan
Makes no sense. Its a 924, you break the belt you replace it with a new $20 belt and you're on your way. Its a side of the road repair, its not an interference engine.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pettybird
you're quite the prophet for someone who doesn't even have a swapped car. do you HAVE to pollute EVERY thread with chevy engines? it's annoying. we get it.

actually you're right... i hope the op understand's i was just giving him a little ribbing. this car is going to be a ton of work, but who's to say he's not up to it ? in any case, whatever engine he decides to run, he's better off getting away from that vw engine and run almost anything else. it just doesn't make much power.


Originally Posted by bonus12
YEAH! CHEVY ENGINES SUCK!

all chevys and fords suck except the corvette and old mustang...

the original Ford, Chrysler and Chevy V8 engines from the 1960s and '70s suffered from very-poor quality internal parts, not to mention that motor oils back in those days were pretty horrible..... but, by the mid-'80s via the aftermarket, ie, Crane, Comp cams, TRW, Edlebrock, Moroso, Holley, Pete Jackson, Jegs, Summit and many others, were giving engine builders access to basically, what amounted to aircraft-quality components even for your most basic rebuilds. power output in typical rebuilds was increased by about 75~100 hp....

also remember that by the mid-'70s engines were being bogged down by analog emmissions control systems that were not being helped by fuel injection or computerized engine management systems.... this was, a virtual disaster, and had nothing to do with the internal make-up of the engines.... the Chrysler 318s, 340, 360 engines were bulletproof even back in the day, but the 383 engine was the greatest of all. 1,000,000 mile cruisers even running the crap motor oils they had back then.

then there was the Chrysler slant-six engines. imagine running one of those with modern oil.

the cars that they came in were crap but, we'd be here for about 200 years driving any of those motors.

look at Nascar by the late '80s. they were building bulletproff racing engines making upwards of 700 hp from ordinary, four-bolt, smallblock Ford and Chevy blocks... the sbc is a time-tested winner. sourcing of Nascar blocks built in the 1980s and early '90s came right from scrap yard deliveries from all across the country (for magnafluxing and engine builds) with a near-endless supply, before the really, "big-money" engine budgets came into play.... i had a nice sbc built for me in 1990 that took my buick regal about 80 k-miles before i sold that car to a friend and he installed it in one of his fleet, towing/plowing vehicles where it still runs fine.... with very modest funds, you can build a smallblock chevy engine with high-quality internals and synthetic oil that will run well past 500,000 miles with normal driving and care.



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Old 01-21-2011, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by odurandina
actually you're right... this car is going to be a ton of work, but who's to say he's not up to the task. in any case, whatever engine he decides to run, he's better off getting away from the vw engine and running almost anything else.
Respect, but........VW also built the Bugatti Veyron

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The 2.0 924 engine is bullet proof. It may be maxed out in terms of NA power at around 135 or 140 hp, but it is dead reliable and very easy to work on. When I rebuilt mine I put in euro pistons and a big valve head and hotter cam and it was a great runner. Not to mention, even with high miles and unknown maintenance the bores were still perfect. In my opinion there are more reasons to keep the 2.0 engine than dump it.
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I say get the car running how it is now to learn the car. Then maybe down the road you could do a swap. 924's are the next 914's.
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Boys- I am far from having the ability to do an engine swap. I have little more than a tool box full of tools, some common sense and some spare change. 130hp (more like 90 now) is just fine by me!
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Originally Posted by adamstatonsmith
Boys- I am far from having the ability to do an engine swap. I have little more than a tool box full of tools, some common sense and some spare change. 130hp (more like 90 now) is just fine by me!
Common sense is all you need. As I've always liked to say, it's just nuts and bolts.
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Sounds like you have more than enough to tackle work on a 924. They are very forgiving of developing mechanics. Swapping in a SBC will turn a $100 car into a $50 car anyway.
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Hmm, let's see... Cheap car, can probably get running pretty easy. Cheap maintenance parts..timing belt, brakes, shocks, etc...30 mpg and once you figure out CIS, an easy car to work on and learn with. Eventually may have some value like the 914. Sounds like the reasons I bought one for my son to fix up and have ready when he gets his lic.
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Originally Posted by bonus12
YEAH! CHEVY ENGINES SUCK!

all chevys and fords suck except the corvette and old mustang

has anyone seen this yet?
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...specialty_file
They need a snooze emoticon here LOL
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If i were you:

Check the belts
Check Battery Cables
Check Battery
New Fuel with fuel system cleaner
Change Oil
Change Coolant

Try and start it... if it runs then give it a tune up with plugs,wires etc...if you get nothing with a good battery and the stuff above in good/decent order then check the starter... if it turns and you get nothing then check fuel pump and spark.
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#7 change engine
TPC has a kit to stick in a 924 friendly GM V6. Sorry but a V8 would be overkill on that suspension/brakes/chassis....even if it didn't loose half it's structural integrity to FeO2
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Very cool project car! Keep us posted and post lots of pictures.


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