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11-21-2002, 03:51 PM
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Its called the Show and Display law - see Autoweek Jan 8, 2001 issue. Jag XK220 w/ Indiana plates on the cover. Its also called the 'Bill Gates law' since he and a few friends quietly got it passed through Congress in 1999/2000. Don't have the issue around any more, but from memory - its a full DOT exemption as long as car is driven less than 2500 miles a year. Must pass EPA test, but its one of the 'easy' cycles, not the full boat mfr test. Model must no longer be in production and must never have been offered for sale in US by mfr.
Bill and his friends shipped their cars back to Germany to be converted to meet US EPA specs (yeah, that means they were previously here). Work was done by a specialist shop - don't think it was directly associated with the factory. (Wonder how long those cats stayed on?)
Article mentioned several types of euro supercars besides the 959s and XK220s as undergoing emissions conversions in early 2001. No Skylines etc, but GTRs might be eligible if qualify as no longer in production.
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Bill and his friends shipped their cars back to Germany to be converted to meet US EPA specs (yeah, that means they were previously here). Work was done by a specialist shop - don't think it was directly associated with the factory. (Wonder how long those cats stayed on?)
Article mentioned several types of euro supercars besides the 959s and XK220s as undergoing emissions conversions in early 2001. No Skylines etc, but GTRs might be eligible if qualify as no longer in production.
Barry B.
11-21-2002, 04:03 PM
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kennyanderson,
There was also a recent mention of the 'show & display' law in Sports Car Intnl' (second-to-last issue IIRC); I believe the article was on modern day supercars and how some managed to "get around" DOT certification.
There was also a recent mention of the 'show & display' law in Sports Car Intnl' (second-to-last issue IIRC); I believe the article was on modern day supercars and how some managed to "get around" DOT certification.
11-21-2002, 08:25 PM
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We've got people shooting each other in the streets, mothers dumping their newborn babies in trash cans, rapists on the loose, parents killing other parents in a dugout at a Little League game, aggravated robbery downtown, and 10 million drunk people driving the Interstates every night most of whom already have DUIs.
And Government is worried about a little smog or congestion from 250 or so $300,000 non-USA sold cars within our borders that get driven down to the park and back once a week for three months a year.
Brilliant.
And Government is worried about a little smog or congestion from 250 or so $300,000 non-USA sold cars within our borders that get driven down to the park and back once a week for three months a year.
Brilliant.
11-22-2002, 04:35 PM
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WOW,
Like the whole process wasn't convoluted enough already, they wern't flaunting this method, and I had to did a bit for it knowing what to look for (with the info you guys gave):
Car must be show or display only.
Allows up to 2500 miles per year (if approved) on public roads (to keep the car working and travel to events or rallies) with milage inspection after 5 years and thereafter at their discretion.
Car has to meet EPA emissions for the year the car was produced and your state, read CA, can have a standard more restrictive than the Feds (that's why and what they were getting modded).
Car must be of historical or technological interest.
May not be similar to production cars already imported into the US (I assume by the same manufacturer - they gave the example of a Mercedes 280 SL - no go!)
Car cannot be resold without approval before it is 25 years old.
Not many Porsches would fall into this catagory -- mostly JUST the 959.
Like the whole process wasn't convoluted enough already, they wern't flaunting this method, and I had to did a bit for it knowing what to look for (with the info you guys gave):
Car must be show or display only.
Allows up to 2500 miles per year (if approved) on public roads (to keep the car working and travel to events or rallies) with milage inspection after 5 years and thereafter at their discretion.
Car has to meet EPA emissions for the year the car was produced and your state, read CA, can have a standard more restrictive than the Feds (that's why and what they were getting modded).
Car must be of historical or technological interest.
May not be similar to production cars already imported into the US (I assume by the same manufacturer - they gave the example of a Mercedes 280 SL - no go!)
Car cannot be resold without approval before it is 25 years old.
Not many Porsches would fall into this catagory -- mostly JUST the 959.
04-02-2011, 12:14 PM
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A friend of mine was just in SoCal and he sent me this photo and a few others......
Apparently this guy has 14 of them at his shop. Imported them all from Japan. Sadly, they are all sold. Not that I could ever hope to afford one. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
Apparently this guy has 14 of them at his shop. Imported them all from Japan. Sadly, they are all sold. Not that I could ever hope to afford one. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
Blast from the past, I know, but if you're still around, Geo I'd really like to see this photo again. Do you still have it?
