FYI: went and looked at this 1988 924S (see post #38 for update)
01-18-2011, 08:30 PM
#1
Three Wheelin'
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FYI: went and looked at this 1988 924S (see post #38 for update)
maybe this doesn't deserve it's own thread but this might help somebody:
I went and looked at this car + drove it around for fun. so, i can answer questions about it if anyone would like.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/2163691365.html
i don't know how to x-post to the 924/931 section without doing it manually, so i guess i won't do it.
thanks
After driving this baby around, i want one!!!
I understand why people think they are underpowered, but for everyday driving it would be more than fine...especially around corners of course. nevertheless, i believe 230hp is achievable pretty simply, yes?
I went and looked at this car + drove it around for fun. so, i can answer questions about it if anyone would like.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/2163691365.html
i don't know how to x-post to the 924/931 section without doing it manually, so i guess i won't do it.
thanks
After driving this baby around, i want one!!!
I understand why people think they are underpowered, but for everyday driving it would be more than fine...especially around corners of course. nevertheless, i believe 230hp is achievable pretty simply, yes?
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01-18-2011, 09:03 PM
#4
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
lol @ engine replacement
i discovered today how awesome the 924 is. and the 924S is a raw little machine...much more of an old school car than my 951, that's for sure. i really want a 924 now...and i've seen much debate about which is better: 924S or 1980+ 931. i don't know the answer.
here, i found this.
i discovered today how awesome the 924 is. and the 924S is a raw little machine...much more of an old school car than my 951, that's for sure. i really want a 924 now...and i've seen much debate about which is better: 924S or 1980+ 931. i don't know the answer.
here, i found this.
The sad truth is there is not a great deal of power in 924S and 944 NA engines. You can do a fair number of little tricks though.
Port and polish, this is really easy, you just have to be careful.
Digital ignition system. Not too expensive, allows you to control ignition independantly of the Motronic ECU.
Franco Cam gear, allows you to advance/retard cam timing. Very useful.
New cam, you can get any sort of grind you want, from mild to scorching hot.
With everything above, you could expect 220 hp.
At that point, a custom chip can get you another 15 hp.
These are all the cheap(relative term) hotrodding tricks, they don't require a rebuild or any new internal engine components or machining, except for the cam(easy) and the porting(almost as easy)
There is another option available for the 924S, a complete engine and tranny swap from a 951 or 968.
It drops right in, you just have to get the parts. If you the space for a parts car, consider getting a 951 or 968 wreck, they are quite inexpensive, and you replace all the components on your car, drivetrain, suspension, brakes, interior.... nice huh? $3500-$5000 depending on the car.
Port and polish, this is really easy, you just have to be careful.
Digital ignition system. Not too expensive, allows you to control ignition independantly of the Motronic ECU.
Franco Cam gear, allows you to advance/retard cam timing. Very useful.
New cam, you can get any sort of grind you want, from mild to scorching hot.
With everything above, you could expect 220 hp.
At that point, a custom chip can get you another 15 hp.
These are all the cheap(relative term) hotrodding tricks, they don't require a rebuild or any new internal engine components or machining, except for the cam(easy) and the porting(almost as easy)
There is another option available for the 924S, a complete engine and tranny swap from a 951 or 968.
It drops right in, you just have to get the parts. If you the space for a parts car, consider getting a 951 or 968 wreck, they are quite inexpensive, and you replace all the components on your car, drivetrain, suspension, brakes, interior.... nice huh? $3500-$5000 depending on the car.
01-18-2011, 09:06 PM
#5
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
i should add, though, that suspension and brake upgrades etc would do this car a major favor as well...it's not all about HP and we all know this. 
01-19-2011, 03:46 AM
#6
No major brake upgrades are required short of a refurb of the system and a decent set of pads.
01-19-2011, 06:55 AM
#7
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very nice 924 you're loooking at. the 924 is always a good buy. much like the 944, its a very reliable car and is very enjoyable to drive. the first 924 i ever drove was a 77 (i think..maybe a 79, but i'm thinking it was a 77) championship edition. it was white with white wheels and red and blue striping and had a cool plaque by the shifter to signify the model. i remember it had neat orange carpet and if i remember correctly it was a 4spd and was a ball to drive.
edit: after a quick google search, i found a links with pics of the same model that i drove:
http://bringatrailer.com/2008/07/16/...i-porsche-924/
http://www.harrystoys.com/a-images/12951/12951.htm
edit: after a quick google search, i found a links with pics of the same model that i drove:
http://bringatrailer.com/2008/07/16/...i-porsche-924/
http://www.harrystoys.com/a-images/12951/12951.htm
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01-19-2011, 09:30 AM
#8
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That was the route that I took. Bought a pristine 924S (38K miles), added Leda coilovers all around, stripped off as much weight as possible, and tracked it. Wanting more straight line speed I dropped in a 968 engine and Frankencar was born. I miss Franky I 
01-19-2011, 01:18 PM
#9
Three Wheelin'
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it was indeed a pretty nice example of a 924 i think. i might as well divulge:
the engine and transmission were really good to the point of my surprise. no rust...good chassis. good steering and rolling. great body and paint except for some spots on the hood and a very small dent on the low-side of the front passenger side quarter panel. unfortunately, dash cracks and separations at the seems of the seats etc made the interior not so good...but certainly not horrible. the speedo didnt work. i think it stopped like 6 years ago at 105,920 and was not documented. there was a squealing at idle (loose belt?) the sunroof didn't open, although the motor was trying. the headlights didn't open completely smoothly. the gas gauge needle moved a bit upon acceleration from a start.
is cBass (see quote above) correct that you can do those things to get more than 200 hp? how much might that cost because it seems pretty simple and non invasive. i'm thinking about getting one this summer and i want a 924s or a 931 and i don't think i'll be keeping it stock.
the engine and transmission were really good to the point of my surprise. no rust...good chassis. good steering and rolling. great body and paint except for some spots on the hood and a very small dent on the low-side of the front passenger side quarter panel. unfortunately, dash cracks and separations at the seems of the seats etc made the interior not so good...but certainly not horrible. the speedo didnt work. i think it stopped like 6 years ago at 105,920 and was not documented. there was a squealing at idle (loose belt?) the sunroof didn't open, although the motor was trying. the headlights didn't open completely smoothly. the gas gauge needle moved a bit upon acceleration from a start.
is cBass (see quote above) correct that you can do those things to get more than 200 hp? how much might that cost because it seems pretty simple and non invasive. i'm thinking about getting one this summer and i want a 924s or a 931 and i don't think i'll be keeping it stock.
01-19-2011, 02:39 PM
#11
Race Director
The car in question is a 924S. The 924S = a 944 with narrow fenders. Every part on a 924S came on some year of 944 except the narrow body work.
The 924 and 924 Turbo are very different from the 944 or 924S. The have 2.0L motors with a design not like the 2.5L 944/924S motors. Plus some 924 cars use 4 lug wheels and entirely differnet gearbox designs including 4 speeds.
So when taking about these car remember if you say 924 we hear 2.0L motor car from 76-81. If we here 924S we think 944 NA with narrow bodywork.
I have two 924S parts cars that keep my 84 944 running.
The 924 and 924 Turbo are very different from the 944 or 924S. The have 2.0L motors with a design not like the 2.5L 944/924S motors. Plus some 924 cars use 4 lug wheels and entirely differnet gearbox designs including 4 speeds.
So when taking about these car remember if you say 924 we hear 2.0L motor car from 76-81. If we here 924S we think 944 NA with narrow bodywork.
I have two 924S parts cars that keep my 84 944 running.
01-19-2011, 03:04 PM
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I loved my 924S. It had a lot of miles on it, but was a great around town car. I beat the hell out of it and it kept up there with me. Went through on transmission, but the car had about 300,000 miles on it. Still was ticking when I sold it to move onto a turbo which has been a headache.
01-19-2011, 03:13 PM
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lol @ engine replacement
i discovered today how awesome the 924 is. and the 924S is a raw little machine...much more of an old school car than my 951, that's for sure. i really want a 924 now...and i've seen much debate about which is better: 924S or 1980+ 931. i don't know the answer.
here, i found this.
i discovered today how awesome the 924 is. and the 924S is a raw little machine...much more of an old school car than my 951, that's for sure. i really want a 924 now...and i've seen much debate about which is better: 924S or 1980+ 931. i don't know the answer.
here, i found this.
01-19-2011, 03:33 PM
#14
Three Wheelin'
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The car in question is a 924S. The 924S = a 944 with narrow fenders. Every part on a 924S came on some year of 944 except the narrow body work.
The 924 and 924 Turbo are very different from the 944 or 924S. The have 2.0L motors with a design not like the 2.5L 944/924S motors. Plus some 924 cars use 4 lug wheels and entirely differnet gearbox designs including 4 speeds.
So when taking about these car remember if you say 924 we hear 2.0L motor car from 76-81. If we here 924S we think 944 NA with narrow bodywork.
I have two 924S parts cars that keep my 84 944 running.
The 924 and 924 Turbo are very different from the 944 or 924S. The have 2.0L motors with a design not like the 2.5L 944/924S motors. Plus some 924 cars use 4 lug wheels and entirely differnet gearbox designs including 4 speeds.
So when taking about these car remember if you say 924 we hear 2.0L motor car from 76-81. If we here 924S we think 944 NA with narrow bodywork.
I have two 924S parts cars that keep my 84 944 running.
01-19-2011, 04:02 PM
#15
Race Director
I don't group the 924S with a 924/924 Turbo.
I group a 924S with the 944 NA. I consder the 924S to be the same car is a 944. The 924 is an entirely different animal.
I group a 924S with the 944 NA. I consder the 924S to be the same car is a 944. The 924 is an entirely different animal.