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Old 03-20-2002, 01:35 PM
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Question do your windshield washer jets suck or is it just mine?

i originally thought my windshield washer didn't work well because it needed a check valve to keep all the fluid from draining out of the hoses back through the pump. then i realized there already are two. then i thought that my problem was related to the poor connection between the hose feeding the jets and the T on the reservior cap. So i replaced part of that hose and re did that connection. and i STILL only get spray out of one of the two openings on the passenger side one and a tiny trickle from one on the drivers' side.

has anyone else dealt with this?? what should i check next? i suppose the pump itself could be weak, or the nozzles could be clogged... is there any way to clean them? i am a fanatic about windshield cleanliness and can't stand my present situation at all...

on a side note, there are wires going to the bottom side of the sprayer jets... are these for a heating element of some sort? if so, what turns it on?
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Unfortunetly I can't help.

But I have the exact same situation. My passenger side is great. But my drivers side just soaks my hood with windsheild washer fluid. So I have to clean my windsheild on the highway so at least I get some fluid on windsheild.

I to have those little wires that are connected to the underside of the jets.

I'd love to hear a fix for this.
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This often happens of Saabs...the culprit? Clogged washer nozzles. I would bet you have the same problem (assuming your pump is good). The nozzles are usually pretty cheap so I would replace these...

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Yeah, clogged. Easy to fix I hear but the only bad thing is those little buggers are EXPEN$IVE for such a small part. Would generic ones fit in the holes you think? Anything would probably work better then 13 year old ones.

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Old 03-20-2002, 02:32 PM
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Ive got the same problem .Passenger side is great,driver side ,nothing.
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The wires are for heaters, they turn on when the rear defroster turns on, the same as the defrosters in the mirrors. Sometimes a very thin sewing needle can clean them out. I think replacemnts are around $40 each!

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I took the fluid line off the washer pump and blew the whole system out with compressed air. It worked okay for a while after that. Seems to be clogging up again though. This was 4-5 months ago.

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I've had a little luck with "reaming" the jets with a piece of wire about 3 - 4 inches long. I've used one of the copper strands of an old battery cable. I think part of the problem might be history of using nasty tap water, resulting in getting mineral deposits (calcuim, lime, etc) clogging the small passages. It might be possible to remove the jet "assembly" and flush it with something like "CLR". Just be careful because the stuff is acid based, and will eat nearly everything (paint, skin, eyes, etc).

I've also had problems with the connector that plugs onto the washer pump

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If cleaning the jet out with a copper wire doesn't clear the problem, the next thing would be those check valves.. They are known to jam shut and either block flow or slow it dramatically.
You can test them by disconnecting the hose between the check valve and the jet, then run the pump. If no fluid flows, then disconnect the value from pump line and run the pump again. If fluid flows, then it's the check valves.
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Here's a bit of advice for securing the washer fluid hose back to the valves/nozzles. Try using a small zip-tie. Hose clamps don't come small enough and you will usually ruin the original clamps during removal. BTW, I can't take credit for this idea. I remember reading it in another post concerning this topic. It is a fairly common problem with our cars.

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wires are for heater that prevents icicles from forming in the nozzles..

first try the sewing needle trick in the jet HOLE.

if not: when you look under the hood, there is a plastic joint that is like a T connection.. it makes the ONE hose from the pump go to BOTH washer nozzles.. this usually gets REALLY clogged up.. inside of it, there is also a small rubber washer. this sometimes melts from being under the hood and clogs things up.

Good luck getting the metal clamps off the hoses.

SHAUN
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I had the same problem with my 91 944S2 , I spent ages poking in bits of wire and pins, all to no avail , then I tried removing the pipes and blwing then out with a high pressure air line, worked a treat!! <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />
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If you have access to an ultrasonic cleaning bath, I've found this to be the perfect solution to clogged and aged squirters. Been using this method for 15 years... works great. They're not too expensive to buy and have many uses (jewelry, injectors, electronics, etc)

Good Luck!
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hmmm... i'll have to try to find some compressed air. you guys who had success with this method blew air into the line feeding the sprayer nozzles? it seems to me that anything clogging them up would not be able to fit out, even under pressure, but maybe i'm wrong.

has anyone had luck replacing these with the sprayers off another car? i really wouldn't mind giving up the heaters as i've never seen any other car with them and in 19 years of living in vermont i never saw one freeze up from the inside (when used with non-diluted washer solution). My ford has a really great spray pattern and i'm planning on selling it soon, so maybe i'll just swap them if i don't have to hack the hood up to make the other ones fit.
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Ever notice how much the squirters look like the "Scrubbing Bubbles" in the commercial?

OK. Here goes. There is no cheaper and worthless piece of electrical junk on the Porsche than the washer motor. I bought a replacement, fabricated a bracket and found that 90% of the problems went away. Because the motor is so weak the nozzle holes have to be very small in order to create a usable flow. The Ford system on some of the "older" cars (about ten years) was a piece of metal tubing squashed on the end to create a nozzle. I have NEVER seen one of these fail or clog. So, the second trick I did was to back blow the nozzles with a compressor, clean all the lines of any crud, reamed out the nozzle with a hot needle. Viola....No problems.

Try the replacement motor first. Then the nozzles, but try to get some from a junkyard first. I can't prove it, but I would bet they are not unique to Porsche.They are inexpensive and built a heck of a lot better than the $2.98 piece of trash Porsche installed....talk about the lowest bidder.....

Cheers!!

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