Different offset in the rear
#1
Different offset in the rear
I have an 87' non turbo car. I recently noticed that the offset of something in the rear is wrong. The drivers side wheel sticks out further then the passenger side. At first i thought it was the wheels, but it does it on both sets of wheels i have.
I would like to fix this problem, i'm guessing the PO replaced something with an early offset car, but my question is what would it be?
Is is a simple as a wrong brake rotor, or does it go beyond that into a trailing arm or hub assembly. Any help would be greatly appreicated.
Thanks,
Steve
I would like to fix this problem, i'm guessing the PO replaced something with an early offset car, but my question is what would it be?
Is is a simple as a wrong brake rotor, or does it go beyond that into a trailing arm or hub assembly. Any help would be greatly appreicated.
Thanks,
Steve
#2
I'm told they all do that, mine included. see this thread (scroll down for a picture).
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
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00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
#4
Mine is ~1/2". Not unusual apparently. I'm rebuilding the rear end and when I reassemble it I will attempt to squeeze the driver's side spring plate cover towards the center. I'll post the results.
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
#6
OK, I assumed mine wasn't representative because of the wreck I had at watkins glen. Apparently there are a few listers here with the same offset, always on the driver's side. I emailed George Beuselinck, the PCA tech guru for the 924/44/68 series, and he verified the phenomena: They all do that. Unless you're filling the wheel well you'll never notice. I figure they had the elongated hole on the driver's side to allow for mechanical stackup of tolerances, but that many ended up sliding to the outside under load.
You could try pulling that bolt on the driver's side and see where the spring plate cover is sitting relative to the chassis. I'll bet thats where your offset is.
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
You could try pulling that bolt on the driver's side and see where the spring plate cover is sitting relative to the chassis. I'll bet thats where your offset is.
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
#7
i never really measured it, but i started to notice it becuase i did fill the wheel well. I bought spacers for the rear end to add the current porsche wheels, i wanted to bring them further out in the wheel wells. Once i saw the different offset, i put the phonies back on and i noticed the same thing.
I plan on rebuilding the rear end, either during winter or sometime in spring, so maybe i'll look at it then. The easy way would be to measure the difference and shave the spacer on the drivers side by that amount and make sure that spacer only ends up on the drivers side.
Thanks for all the help i appreicate it.
when i had the car repainted my body shop told me that it was repainted at sometime and it was an insurance paid for job so yes it was in an accident and i'm pretty sure it was on the rear drivers side.
I plan on rebuilding the rear end, either during winter or sometime in spring, so maybe i'll look at it then. The easy way would be to measure the difference and shave the spacer on the drivers side by that amount and make sure that spacer only ends up on the drivers side.
Thanks for all the help i appreicate it.
when i had the car repainted my body shop told me that it was repainted at sometime and it was an insurance paid for job so yes it was in an accident and i'm pretty sure it was on the rear drivers side.
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#10
Yeah, they're all like that.
That won't help, it's the trailing arm that positions the rear wheel.
That won't help, it's the trailing arm that positions the rear wheel.
#11
Chris,
Yes the trailing arm positions the wheel, but the bushings are located between the torsion tube and the spring plate cover. If the spring plate cover moves outboard, then the spring plate can follow.
And tifosiman, while this may have been discussed ad nauseum, its new and disappointing for me. I expect better from Porsche. Kind of like when I complained about the clutch chatter, and the factory rep tried to sell me a 968, instead of fixing the clutch (they eventually ponied up the parts).
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers
Yes the trailing arm positions the wheel, but the bushings are located between the torsion tube and the spring plate cover. If the spring plate cover moves outboard, then the spring plate can follow.
And tifosiman, while this may have been discussed ad nauseum, its new and disappointing for me. I expect better from Porsche. Kind of like when I complained about the clutch chatter, and the factory rep tried to sell me a 968, instead of fixing the clutch (they eventually ponied up the parts).
Regards,
doug
Waterloo, Ontario Canada, eh
86 951 (http://www.pcaucr.org/index.php/visu...egory&catid=61)
01 E320 (W210) 4matic Wagon (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210...body-do-2.html)
00 540i-6 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3&d=1283457963)
94 855 turbo Wagon (sold in 09)
85 535i-5 (sold in 07)
76 300D (sold in 92)
83 944 (sold in 86)
I apparently only buy cars designated by numbers