roman944

does anyone has a stripped out early 944 and maybe they also have a S2 (full interior) or their friend has an S2 (still full interior, nothing stripped/taken off) and could drive each other's cars and come back with what they felt?

if you don't think that taking things out is worth it, then don't do it

I don't need to justify to anyone how I choose to modify my car

also wanted to add, that today there are much better solutions to sound dampening then 30 years ago ... and it's not going to be hard to put stuff back in that you feel you really miss

most of it ends up being with your plans for the car and what you are going to be doing with it

ideola had a great suggestion with where you could/should start (other then aforementioned good old diet)

CorsePerVita

i would have to respectfully disagree t3rra. weight reduction isn't really pointless on any car. look at the 914, they weigh what, 2200lbs? the 924 is around 2500lbs, the 944 is close to 3000lbs. but the power is different.

A completely stripped, fiberglass bodied, no interior, dedicated track bird of a 924 could easily be close to the weight of a 914, somewhere in the ballpark. the 914 feels pretty peppy for what it was, imagine a 924 that light with a few power mods.

The only problem here is that for you to gain /enough/ benefit of that weight reduction, you are then crossing the line between daily driver and track bird. so the question is, how far are you /willing/ to go, how much /will/ you spend and are you comfortable with driving a stripped out track bird to work eh? Haha. Aside from that minor weight reduction wouldn't be worth it, if perhaps that is what your main point was, simply because you'd need enough to justify doing it.

V2Rocket

late cars feel "fat" to me; every time ive driven a late NA or a 951, at least with stock suspension, you can actually feel like the car has alot of extra weight and its higher up for some reason. its a weird feeling. my early is a gokart (25.5/18 sways and 200lb front springs) compared to the later ones in driving feel...

all the nice goodies that make the late cars apparently more 'desireable" for buyers makes them heavier too...

CorsePerVita

very true, v2.

t3rra

Iv have spent quite some time reshearching the weight lost ideas. We all want more. Iv got no problem, with someone make the car there own. It is there own and they have every right 2 do with it as they please. I just think that it's a lot off effort when starting with a low power base. I understand the growth off attachment we all get, and are
relunctent 2 simply sell up and upgrade 2 s2 or a turbo. I don't think iv really noticed much difference with or without my shopping in the back. And I'm not shy 2 bounce it off
the red line. If your going 2 really shave the weight with new panels e.c.t then pay 4 a respary I think your get much more 4 your money starting with a higher powered
modle. If you striped 200kg off an s2 or a 250bhp turbo you would still only save one sec at most over stock times.


What I have noticed, and don't hear much about is that euro spec car are more tuned then us spec. You guys have got some ugly bumpers and I know you swap over 4 the euro look. But I don't hear much about euro engine specs.

I'm sure I read in a Peter Morgan book that the us engine are de tuned based on retarding the timing on the belts. So ur tdc is slightly a deg out 2 euro spec.

odurandina

like the 968 engine Tim was running in his gutted 924...

then imagine supercharging or turbocharging that motor, or swapping it for an LSx.

CorsePerVita

now that would be fun!

V2Rocket

the main differences are euro NA's have a full point higher compression (10.6 vs 9.5), early ones didnt have a catalytic converter, and better computer mapping.

333pg333

How much are these? How much do they weigh?

GTSilver944

Who is this Tom R? I think he's full of ****, go ahead and take everything out!