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Old 05-09-2003, 05:14 PM
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I would liek to hear which chip you guys have used for your engines, and which one's really do work well and add some power. I am lookin to get one myself, but got no idea where to start..

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Old 05-09-2003, 05:35 PM
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My understanding is that the chips don't really do much for the n/a's. My n/a is chipped, but it was like that when I bought it so I don't know what the difference was. Chips are supposed to REALLY help the turbos though. Guess I got it backward - chipped n/a and non-chipped turbo. Hmmm..... <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
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My brother's 84 NA has an Autothority chip, and that car seems to have quite a bit of pep to it. Excellent driveability and everything. It was like that when he got it also though, so I don't have much for comparison.

My S2 I got a "weltmeister clone" from a guy on the e-mail lists, and it did make a difference. Probably not more than 10 hp max but the seat of the pants dyno can tell a difference, it adds more low end and it seems even happier to rev above 4k rpm now. I paid $125 for the chip, but I would not spend the $400 some places wants for NA chips..you just won't get that much from it.
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Gains are any where from 2-5 hp.
Old 05-09-2003, 05:51 PM
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Alright, that's about what i though...a little bit more, but nothing crazy.

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I didn't expect a reply this fast either..Cheers!
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by M758:
<strong>Gains are any where from 2-5 hp.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">no way, at least 3-7 hp..
plus official p-car carpets.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by sybelix:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by M758:
<strong>Gains are any where from 2-5 hp.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">no way, at least 3-7 hp..
plus official p-car carpets.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I'd did not get any carpets <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
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Supposedly the FR Wilk chip for the NA makes a day/night difference in low end torque and overall smoothness .. you wont pass smog with it, but who cares? Search for previous threads on FR Wilk.

I'll be getting one, myself.. provided some day my car runs for more than two consecutive weeks.
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Yeah, I have the FR Wilk Chip. I noticed a very nice difference after it was installed. Keep in mind that the software he uses to get the extra power will not pass emissions and is not legal on the street. That being said he also sells dual chip setups which let you switch between stock and optimized chips so you can pass an emissions test. Midrange torque is what I felt increased the most. Peak horsepower may only be up about 5 or so but torque seemed to increase a nice amount over most of the rpm band.

BTW, I have only seen one unhappy FR Wilk customer on Rennlist. Upon talking with FR Wilk I found out that this customer was having trouble getting his fuel mixtures right at the same time and had many other unsorted variables at the time the car was dynoed. I believe the chip only gave him like 2.5 rwhp. However, no graphs were posted and there were no torque numbers either.

I would like to get to a dyno...but I just feel the money is better spent on suspension stuff at this point.
Old 05-09-2003, 07:29 PM
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I have a FR Wilk chip in my Euro.
Better low end tq. is the most obviously difference. I'm very happy with it so far (less than a week).

As for emissions, the laws are quite different in Norway so that's not a problem. We have bi-annual inspections on older cars in Norway, but they don't do an emissions test.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by schnellfahrer:
[QB][/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">your avatar looks, like your 944 is a FWD..
spinning the front wheels..
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by sybelix:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by schnellfahrer:
<strong></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">your avatar looks, like your 944 is a FWD..
spinning the front wheels.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Looks more like the massive grabbing power of the great Porsche brakes locking up the front tires to me...
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by FormulaOne10:
<strong>Yeah, I have the FR Wilk Chip. I noticed a very nice difference after it was installed. Keep in mind that the software he uses to get the extra power will not pass emissions and is not legal on the street. That being said he also sells dual chip setups which let you switch between stock and optimized chips so you can pass an emissions test. Midrange torque is what I felt increased the most. Peak horsepower may only be up about 5 or so but torque seemed to increase a nice amount over most of the rpm band.

BTW, I have only seen one unhappy FR Wilk customer on Rennlist. Upon talking with FR Wilk I found out that this customer was having trouble getting his fuel mixtures right at the same time and had many other unsorted variables at the time the car was dynoed. I believe the chip only gave him like 2.5 rwhp. However, no graphs were posted and there were no torque numbers either.

I would like to get to a dyno...but I just feel the money is better spent on suspension stuff at this point.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I think the thing with the FR Wilk chip is that it does not increase peak HP as much as it makes what HP you have available a lot earlier and for as long as possible, which is quite cool!
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Every NA should have a Wilk chip; it completely changes the dynamic of the car.

Very, very satisfied.

Micah
Old 05-09-2003, 09:34 PM
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FR wilk eh, well if it works for you guys then i guess that's the way im gonna go.

And ya, schnellfahrer, it does look like a fwd 944, lol.

Cheers,
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