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Old 06-28-2010, 04:38 PM
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So you know how there have been ls1 and 968 engine swaps into 944's? would it work for the 3.2 v6 from the volkswagen r32 into a 944? I don't know much about cars, just wondering.
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Would definately take some ingenuity and probably some audi parts. R32 has a transverse set up, not sure if there are actual bolt holes in the block for a longitudinal mounting application.
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doable.

https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...4-project.html
Old 06-28-2010, 05:24 PM
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Once a year (more or less) I post my dream swap -- the 2.0T VW/Audi motor, tweaked up to about 275HP. Or wait a few years and source a new 2.5L 5 cylinder turbo from the TT-RS.
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R32 = 3.2L VR6 engine. A few people are swapping/have swapped 2.8L VR6 engines in 944's.
Old 06-29-2010, 02:27 AM
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seems like a lot of work/money to end up being barely as fast as a stock 951 and definitely slower than ls1 or even an lt1. would be a cool conversation piece, but that's about it. in my opinion.
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VR6 Turbo is where the fun would be! 400whp comes very easily from them.
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Yes.. but it is incredibly unreliable. I do not know of anyone with a VR6 turbo that is trouble free.
Now a supercharged VR6 is way easier to do and more reliable.

That project is still ongoing is it not?
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Any VR6 is unreliable. I was dead set on doing a vr6 swap at around the same time vonov was starting his, and after helping my brother work on his two VWs (both vr6) countless times, I decided I hate that motor and I don't want one ever.

The bottom ends are stout as can be. Overall a bitch to work on. Lots of engineering below the level of Porsche. IMO the advantage of a vr6 block over a 944 block comes at power levels which 99% of people do not actually want to get (i.e. pay for).

How about a 1.8t? Simple little engine, iron block, good for huge power.
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If were going to do any VAG engine in a 944 it would be an Audi I5 20V. Best VAG motor ever. Will easily make more than any 2.5/3.0L I4 Porsche motor.
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Originally Posted by alxdgr8
If were going to do any VAG engine in a 944 it would be an Audi I5 20V. Best VAG motor ever. Will easily make more than any 2.5/3.0L I4 Porsche motor.
Here here! Probably my favorite motor ever!
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money would be better spent on a LS1 swap

more perfomance/$$$
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Originally Posted by alxdgr8
If were going to do any VAG engine in a 944 it would be an Audi I5 20V. Best VAG motor ever. Will easily make more than any 2.5/3.0L I4 Porsche motor.
Agreed, but it's a rare motor and getting rarer. The VW 1.8 - 2.0t is common and has a huge tuner base.
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I have to agree with Greg, VW and Audi used both motors so there are alot more of them available. Being a VW Audi tech I can say there is very little that can go wrong and everything is usually easy to diagnose. I would go 2 litre turbo first. But make sure to check the cam and the high pressure pump.
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Originally Posted by Geldfalle 944
I have to agree with Greg, VW and Audi used both motors so there are alot more of them available. Being a VW Audi tech I can say there is very little that can go wrong and everything is usually easy to diagnose. I would go 2 litre turbo first. But make sure to check the cam and the high pressure pump.
I would love to see someone try this. I know it's not a 350HP screamer, but it's a chance to bump RELIABLE horsepower up to 250 with a modern, 16V, German powerplant that (logically) should allow accessories to play nice with each other. I wonder how its weight compares to the 2.5 n/a.


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