jaibeiber

i got my new head one it is timed and the mechanics started it. it started and after ten minutes it stalled. now the exhaust manifold is welded to the head. they said there is no oil going to the head. what on earth could cause this. it is a 88 944 S head. it has a 87 head on it.
i have spent 3 grand fixing it and i now have a sh*t engine. any ideas on what caused this? and what should i do know? if i were to part out the car, would i make enough money to be worth it? i still owe $5000 plus the $800 i owe the mech. or should i sell the whole car and take this huge it? or should i get a bank loan and buy a beautifull S2 engine?

Has far has parting out, the car is otherwise in good shape. near perfect body. clutch has only 1000 miles on it. rims look real nice for being a phone dial. i would sell for extremely cheap if i must.

MichelleJD

Your mech ran an engine for 10 minutes w/o oil and wants you to pay?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> What else did he do to the car? Did he do anything to the oil pump? What drives the oil pump in these cars? Maybe your mech needs to be finding some $$! <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" />

dualblade

yeah dude, no way this is your problem.

jaibeiber

i am sure they ran it with oil. they said the oil pressure guage went to the max. there suspision is that either something is clogging the oil holes or the head gasket is the wrong one, which i think both are BS. when i pulled the old head all parts where accounted for. and it cant be the gasket set.

no work was done on the oil pump. all they did was assemble the head and time it.

is there any rennlisters in the Holland/Grand Rapids Michigan area that would be able to take a look at it.

JimV8

Absolootly bad, your mech is way out of line. not your problem, this is outrageous. Who would run a motor without making sure it was lubricating. I can't believe it.

jaibeiber

ok, assume it is 100% there fault. how can i prove it. they will somehow put it back on me because i took it apart to begin with, and i bought all the parts. and not helping the fact is a am a bad talker when under pressure. so basically i will end up agreeing with anything they say. and since i am only 19 they think i dont know anything. which isnt true but i can only think of things after the conversation and only to myself can i say it.

944S2NUT

I suggest taking this car to a porsche dealer, and make that halfwit mech pay for the repairs.

Easier said than done I know.

993Maineiac

OK, you are only 19 and they appear to be taking advantage of you big time. Is one of your parents willing to speak with (threaten) them? It would even out the age difference. They installed the parts and should have checked for proper functioning. I hope a lister is willing to help-if not go to the Better Bussiness Bureau to find out your rights. Unfortunately I think you will probably have to pay them or they can put a mechanics lein on the car. Michelle?????

Mark Parker

Lemme get this straight. You replaced the head and head gasket, then took the car to a mechanic who put it in time, tensioned the belts, and fired it up. After 10 minutes, (I think you meant to say the camshaft, not exhaust manifold) siezed because it wasn't oiling ? If all this is correct,,then you don't have a case against the mechanic,,he only finished up what you didn't feel confident in doing. The problem is in the head / head gasket failing to pass lubricating oil to the cam, and that was your part of the job. There was no way he could have checked your work there. Sorry about your misfortune. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

kevin Dubois

well, i think i need to get this straight as well...

first you buy the car from a guy who obviously scammed you, because after 100 miles of purchasing the car the head breaks. the chain tensioner is the culprit. you go the cheap way out (get the tensioner welded back into place), and get the new camshaft. after about 1000 miles later it breaks again. Next,you put the car into storage for the winter broken. you next purchase a head used, from a junk yard with a 6 month warrenty. when the head is ready to be put in place the camshaft journals (bearings?) were worn and needed to be machined first. machine shop machines the head, then autosport puts the head on the car, and the cams do not turn. Turns out the machine shop botched the job, and machined them wrong. Autosport then takes the head off, and sends it back to the machine shop, where they machine the head (which was sopposed to be perfect at time of purchase). After the second machining, Autosports puts the head back on for the (third?) time, times the car and turns it on. The car runs for ten minutes and stalls. problem is claimed to be no lubrication to the head. What went wrong when after they ran it for ten minutes? you said that they said the exhaust manifold was welded to the head?
what else is wrong with it this time?
if they didn't ruin anything, and the only problem is the oil not getting to the head, bring the car over tommorow and we can find why the oil is not pumping (well, i mean the oil is pumping according to autosport... but not to the head)

944S2NUT

Hey Kevin that is great of you to offer your assistance. <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />

jaibeiber

first off kevin is my brother. of course he is going to help me. second auto sports didnt pull the head the second time, the machine shop took the cam and turned it down 4 thousandths.

and to tip the scale my second vehicle over heated today.

keith

just a thought - on the 8valve cam housing gasket, installing it upside down will block an oil passage. Is there a possibility with this on the 16 valve head? Either the head gasket or the cam housing gasket?

Devia

Dude, sorry for all your misfortune! Trouble always happens all at once. Hopefully Kevin can help you, and it sounds like he can.

Good luck!

- Julie

Legoland951

??? how would the car run and pump up lifters without horrific noises to run for 10 minutes unless the S do not use hydraulic lifters? I never owned the S model so maybe just my ignorance.