P. Ortiz

Here's my $.02; I only have experience with the 951, but I would think that on a model year vs same model year basis, the 951 would probably be better on winding roads based solely on the significant weight difference. But really, I think that to compare them heads-up is a bit unfair to each. The 951 is kind of a sports/GT with the emphasis more toward sport. I consider the 928 to be a very fine GT car in the classic sense - Kind of like the older Ferrari GT cars that were built to gobble-up long stretches of road while express traveling from town to town in high-style. Both are quite capable but built for different jobs. That they can even be compared at all today speaks well for what a good model lineup Porsche offered at the time. Each model offered sport while crossing over into the other's strengths ever so slightly, making the buying decision come down choosing which form of sport you wanted.

Rogue_Ant

Exactly. If the stock 87 5spd S4 did 13.5 (with an exceptional driver), then I bet the average 928 owner would only achieve 14sec times. Anyone who has actually gone to the 1/4mi track should know that their is a huge difference between the potential and actual times.

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J Berk

Did Porsche give each of the C/D authors a 944 to take home after that artcile ?!

"Best handling imported sports car in America"

Jfrahm

The weight difference is significant, 400 lbs or so, but remember the 928 has done a lot with that extra weight. In 1987 the 928 has 100 more HP than the stock 951, 20mm more tire front and rear, 3 inches more track, adjustable ride height, bigger brakes and no struts or torsion bars. I think the 928 would have to be a slushbox like mine to give the 951 a fighting chance. 100HP is a lot. Consider the performance difference between a 944NA and a 951 or 944S2, that's only 60-70HP.

In 1988 when the Turbo S turns up it gets a little more interesting.
-Joel

john bono

Er, it's hard to take seriously an article that in the same article that pronounces a 944 as the best handling import, also says the second best handling import is a Honda Prelude--ahead of a 911, Lotus Esprit, Ferrari QV, and Audi Quattro. Not knocking the 951, but geez, a FWD Prelude?!? What were they smoking?

M758

I own an 88 944 Turbo S (Stock) and my parents have a 91 928S4 stock. Both from the factor ran the same 225/50 245/45 tires on 16" wheels.

I have driven both cars extensively. The 928 is smoother more comfortable car. The 944 Turbo is more tossable in the tigher corners. You can make a 928 go in the twistiies, but have to mand handle the the car a bit more to make it turn. The 951 is easier to turn throw into a 2nd gear bend. Now as the speeds increase the 928 comes into its own. At high speeds the 928 is more stable so taking turn 95 in 928 more comforting that in a 951.

On the pulic roads the 928 is the best way to cross alot of ground very fast with little effort. The 951 is better in tighter turns and when you don't mind having to be more on top the car. Some of this due to the power band of 951 whch you constant need to be concernd with were as the 928 will pull from any RPM it seems.

Now on a track.... on Tight track the 951 S probalby has the edge due to the ligher weight and the ablily to toss the car bit more. on fast sweeping track the 928 can claw that edge back some and probably make it an even fight.

If you start modding the car... Well a 928 can be faster than a 951. The 928 chassis can work with larger tires and the suspension design is good. Plust the motors can make great powrer. The 951 can make great power, but can over work the chassis and create relability issues. With 928 the key is to remove weight which while make the car tough and strong also makes it heavy.

whalebird

A 928 is more capable than you might think.

J1NX3D

i dont know what the prelude specifically was like back then but i have a period article at home of a 924S vs CRX comparison (also a TG episode on YT) and there was not much between them. Even 0-100kph they are even, only in top end did the S show an advantage. Honda was coming into their own during the 80's. I had a friend in the late 90's with a late 80's XXX prelude and it was a very capable car. A decently spec'ed early/mid-90's honda handled very well out of the box.

A well driven mid 90's integra type R with only suspension mods, exhaust and good road tyres regularily beats the 7-8 lightly to heavily modified R32 and R33 GTS-T skylines that turn up to our track days and he takes great pride in that. The only skyline he can't beat is an R32 GTR which is insanely fast with an insane driver but the teg driver doesn't count this as just a normal skyline.