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RESCUED: Rear Spring Rates vs. Effective Rates

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Old 04-16-2015, 10:02 PM
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I don't understand German!

What I do understand, is that if TUV say that this coilover conversion is safe, then it is safe.

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Originally Posted by Butters944
I recently picked up a torsion carrier that has custom welded arms on it attached with ball joints. I was told something like it is necessary when deleting the torsion bar for coilovers. Since it keeps all the geometry in tact I think I can get away with using stock rubber spring plate bushings with the coil overs, right?
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Snapped a couple pics. This carrier came off of Michael(Sausagehacker)'s car back when it was a race car.




It also has a custom pair of these guys that fit up to it.
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Haben Sie meine fischig gesehen , wie mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist von den Aalen voll .
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Haben Sie meine fischig gesehen , wie mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist von den Aalen voll .
Nope. You slippery devil...
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Haben Sie meine fischig gesehen , wie mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist von den Aalen voll .
google says

"Did you get my fishy saw my hovercraft is full of eels"
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Drats...damn that German Autocorrect...lol
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Drats...damn that German Autocorrect...lol
I sort of thought my interpretation of a slippery eel was kind of funny after all.

Patrick you have a damned fine looking car and I more than half expect it is slippery.

Sorry I didn't notice the author. You have my regards and utmost respect.

Best Regards you absurd over compensated excuse for a master engineer. You should be ashamed.

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And I wasn't joking about the Master Engineer part. I expect that's something no one would argue with.

I honestly appreciate the time you took to reply. Thanks very much.
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Originally Posted by Butters944
Snapped a couple pics. This carrier came off of Michael(Sausagehacker)'s car back when it was a race car.
THANKS BUTTER!!!

I suppose this will just be giving information to the enemy But I hope it serves to benefit all of mankind (I'm putting on my bikini now so close your eyes). Thank you for agreeing to publish the photos and I promise to not use them with ill intent?

On a more serious note, thanks Butters. I appreciate the effort. Have you tracked this suspension yet? Inquiring minds want to know!! As you may have guessed?

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OK. i maybe got carried away with the last one. but you have to admit it has serious historical value?
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No problem!

I know nothing about its history other than it came off of sausagehackers 83 ex-race car a few years back. I assume the previous owner to Michael had this piece welded up when he was building the track car relatively recently. Don't know of any deep history. It is a very well made piece and I can't wait to install on my car with coil overs.

If anyone was looking to copy the design i could get more details on how it's put together.
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Originally Posted by mikey_audiogeek
I don't understand German!
You don't? I certainly thought you did since you answered my question?

You may not believe you understand German. It's a more common problem than you might think...
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Originally Posted by Butters944
No problem!

I know nothing about its history other than it came off of sausagehackers 83 ex-race car a few years back. I assume the previous owner to Michael had this piece welded up when he was building the track car relatively recently. Don't know of any deep history. It is a very well made piece and I can't wait to install on my car with coil overs.

If anyone was looking to copy the design i could get more details on how it's put together.
Full story...

It was on my car well before I bought it in New Hampshire. It turns out that Cale (Admiralkhole on here) bought it from the PO, and my car was returned to a normal torsion bar setup while maintaining the Bilstein shocks before I picked it up. I hadn't met Cale at this point, who happens to live about an hour away from me here in TX. It was just a weird coincidence that the parts came back together after both went across the country at different times.

Cale is a good friend of mine now, and I was holding on to the torsion carrier for him because I had extra space and now we have bestowed it on Keith to complete the love triangle (and the 3 of us were all physically present when that happened)
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Looking at the PCA rules for stock class cars, under the heading "Suspension" on page 13, line "G" reads:

Spring type must remain as supplied by the factory.

I believe this means that adding coilovers to a 944 S2 places the car in a "prepared" class, my guess is SP2.

If true, this makes the decision very easy for me; I stay with torsion bars for at least the next two or three years.


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