techartisan

She started out silver.....faded...peeling....metal showing through in places....Most of the car had been repainted silver 6 or 7 times from what we can tell....just scuff and spray over and over, over the years.

The strangest discovery....both of my quarter panels were coated with anywhere from 1/2" -1/3" of bondo from the door seam to just behind the wheel......I knew this when I bought the car....what suprised me was that the passenger panel had been worked with a hammer a bit but only in an area the size of my palm.....the rest of it was "blending"????? I can only assume that the matching bondo on the drivers side was there for aesthetics....because there were 3 hammer taps beneath just as much bondo as the passenger side..

Dougs951

Better protect the children.


Looks good

dillon410021

lol

Josh B

Hope you are going to pull a lot of stuff before painting - door handles, mirrors, quarter windows, taillights, bumper pads, foglights, hatch - all come off pretty easily!

CurtP

That's the truth. Here's what mine looked like right before going to the body shop:

techartisan

GEE REALLY? I thought they were permanently attached. This changes everything. LMAO I mean seriously who would strip all the paint from a car and...what did you think??? Id just mask them off? Well allow me to put minds to ease. The tail and running lights had just been put back on when I realized I needed a shot. The bumper pads were put back on after I stripped the bumpers a week or two ago. The hatch will be removed and resealed sometime prior to paint. This car is at least a month away from the booth. Possibly longer depending on how busy work keeps me.

Ill be "streaking" around Phoenix whenever necessary until then.... Between the dry clime, and galvanized panels.....Im only worried that Ill convince myself to just polish and clear coat the metal.

Yep thats gutted and dismembered alright...morbid....but not stripped.

I thought pixxXchange was supposed to be more tit for tat.....am I the only one with NAKED FRAULEIN shots?

cb944

man, I wish I'd got some pics of my 944 when it went in to be repainted now... that had some seriously bad paint. I never got to see it with it all removed, I just got the car back looking fresh and shiny! The paint guy had to take off a lot more than he figured - previous bad paint jobs had left a LOT of paint that needed to be stripped prior to repainting.

That bondo.. do you have any close-up pics? Do you think maybe someone hit something on the passenger side, then decided to match up the driver's side after hammering the passenger side into shape? It wouldn't really make much sense, but maybe it bugged the PO if the passenger side looked slightly different.

Chris.

carlege

Go straight delorean style

drift a 944

Um, perhaps I am wrong, but I do believe galvanizing is a process of coating metal, to protect it from rust. This means if you sand a 944 down to bare metal, you are sanding off the galvanization.

I have owned a "california car" 924 that a previous owner sanded to bare metal, then primed and painted (probably primed too late, and/or crappy paint job) but the panels rusted underneath the paint, and turned the whole car to absolute ****. Total annihilation.

Be careful!

GTSilver944

Yep. Galvanization is just a zinc coating on the metal. The zinc gets oxidized instead of the steel underneath, as zinc is a better reducing agent.

cb944

.. this is quite correct AFAIK and a good point. With both my 944 and 924 I was careful to buy something which I felt had not been sanded down to metal.. difficult to know, for sure, but in the UK I've seen bare-metal resprays on these Porsches and they have rusted badly very quickly as a result of sanding to bare metal.

That said, when I had my 944 resprayed, I brought this up with the paint guy and he told me that galvanisation was similar to just spraying with any decent anti-corrosive primer, like a zinc oxide primer. I have resprayed an entire car myself before, but I had no idea if he was correct tbh.. Wherever possible he left the originial galvanisation and paint sub-coats on and so there weren't many places where he sprayed primer onto the bare metal. The results were stunning and I have had very little problem with rust, just a small part has started to show at the bottom of one front wing - this is about four years since the respray.

My advice, based on that, is to just be careful what type of primer you use and spend plenty of time in preparation for the top coats... but I have a feeling if you've just rubbed your car down to bare metal, you know that already

drift a 944

You're basically right. All that really NEEDS to be done is just sand what is necessary. Sanding down to bare metal in places that don't need that is considerably overkill, IMO.
I sanded, primed, and painted my own car a couple years ago, and the whole process took me about 2 weeks (working on the car for a couple hours each day after school and work). Leave the month long paint jobs for full restorations of a car worth more than the paintjob. And if the fenders were that f-ed up, why not just get some used fenders that have not been so banged up?

Here's how mine went over. Granted I cut a few corners to get it done quicker, but alas it was done in 2 weeks, all done by me, and NO worries about rust.

Not trying to disprove the OP, just comparing really.

1. Sanded the whole car, only what was necessary. As you can see a few spots were scruffed to bare metal.

2. Any bare metal or bondo showing was primed immediately.

3. Painting - I cut a few corners by not removing a couple things, but I was renting the paint booth on a very limited amount of time.

4. Final product!

techartisan

sadly shes just not clean enough to seriously keep her bare...besides every a girl deserves a lil modesty. I have gotten some really interesting looks driving her sans paint though..


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Going down to bare metal is not necessarily essential when you have a 26 year old car thats been badly repainted a dozen times. When that car has spent most of its 26 years in phoenix arizona...and the metal is already exposed in places....when the right pressured rub can "flake" off paint to steel....NAKED IS NECESSARY.

I didnt think to take pics....I rarely do, usually too focused on what I need to do to consider it....but Yeah as silly as it sounds I think it was just what you said "balancing".....I think he did a **** job pounding a dent went overboard trying to blend with bondo....then either couldnt deal with the imbalance or possibly....I hate to say it....I think he liked the somewhat rounder look...when I first saw the car I thought they were glass panels....till I tapped it...Im thrilled with what I found...I can lead the rumble out of the passenger.

Typo I wrote fenders but meant quarter panels...either way you missed the point... they werent "so banged up"...they were over bondo'd..But any bondo is too much IMHO The passenger side isnt even bad enough that I feel justified in removing it to roll out the texture. The drivers side is so close I might be able to draw the few divets without trouble, torch or tools.

No clue what you could be disproving...hell not sure what your trying to prove.

Your paint looks decent from here. Im sure the half dozen times someone repainted my car it looked decent as well. Id love to have seen the third paint job....he went GOLD.

Some people are more motivated to save every penny and bust out their rollers.....some run for the rattlecan...

You, My cars PO, Sheib, MAACO and quite a few others are fine with scuff and spray......

Who knows I just might pick up your car, 3 or 4 owners from now, and wonder how many layers deep...how many BONUS pounds of paint Im hauling around....and then Ill have your fraulein spread naked on my floor...dont worry...ill send you pixxs

Modern paints, primers, AC's etc when used and applied properly are probably better protection then counting on a thin layer of 20+ year old zinc......but for the peanuts in the gallery...did no one notice the immense field of dust around my car? That would be Baking soda...and lots of it.

Marcquito

If the car was simply soda blasted, it would not have removed any galvanization.

FRporscheman

I turn 26 today. Except when I strip, I don't look as good as that. My handles don't come off.